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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerBlitz View Post
    Any mods that I will be making will be for autocrossing. I have yet to do it, but it sounds like something I could easily get into. I drive a Civic right now, so I will not be trying it out any time soon, lol.
    If you're looking for a car that you want to auto-x, a WRX/STI would not be on the top of the list. Miata.
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    No. Just, no.

    I want a WRX/STi, and I may go autocrossing from time to time for the hell of it. I have friends that go all the time.
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    To be the old guy here ... a common mistake people make right out of school is to overspend on things - especially cars. Reading your description of financials suggests that you can afford the WRX, and are trying to decide if you should stretch for the STI. My answer is a flat out simple "buy the WRX". For what most enthusiasts need the WRX has it in spades, and it will put you in a better position financially. These cars also hold their value very well, so if your financials are stronger in a year or two you could easily trade in and upgrade without a significant hit. Too many younger buyers are "car poor". It will impact other choices like living spaces, travel, beer money, hookers, blow ... etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drews View Post
    If you're looking for a car that you want to auto-x, a WRX/STI would not be on the top of the list. Miata.
    Miata is AutoX king. Hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyRex View Post
    To be the old guy here ... a common mistake people make right out of school is to overspend on things - especially cars. Reading your description of financials suggests that you can afford the WRX, and are trying to decide if you should stretch for the STI. My answer is a flat out simple "buy the WRX". For what most enthusiasts need the WRX has it in spades, and it will put you in a better position financially. These cars also hold their value very well, so if your financials are stronger in a year or two you could easily trade in and upgrade without a significant hit. Too many younger buyers are "car poor". It will impact other choices like living spaces, travel, beer money, hookers, blow ... etc.
    Awesome advice. Thank you for this.

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    Miata is AutoX king. Hands down.
    I strongly dislike the Miata, and I'm not looking to be an AutoX king. It's just something to do from time to time for fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerBlitz View Post
    I strongly dislike the Miata, and I'm not looking to be an AutoX king. It's just something to do from time to time for fun.
    Just out of curiosity, why do you feel so strongly about the Miata?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyRex View Post
    To be the old guy here ... a common mistake people make right out of school is to overspend on things - especially cars. Reading your description of financials suggests that you can afford the WRX, and are trying to decide if you should stretch for the STI. My answer is a flat out simple "buy the WRX". For what most enthusiasts need the WRX has it in spades, and it will put you in a better position financially. These cars also hold their value very well, so if your financials are stronger in a year or two you could easily trade in and upgrade without a significant hit. Too many younger buyers are "car poor". It will impact other choices like living spaces, travel, beer money, hookers, blow ... etc.
    If he is planning on doing the occasional auto-x, my advice would be spring for the STI. Race miles are very, VERY hard on cars and the WRX 5 spd doesn't have the best reputation. If the OP is going to get an STI I would suggest he get one a year or two used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drews View Post
    If he is planning on doing the occasional auto-x, my advice would be spring for the STI. Race miles are very, VERY hard on cars and the WRX 5 spd doesn't have the best reputation. If the OP is going to get an STI I would suggest he get one a year or two used.
    I think the STi competes in a class above. So there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why do you feel so strongly about the Miata?
    I am an extremely opinionated person, and have strong feelings towards a lot of things. I think it's best I leave it at that to avoid trolls and people getting butt-hurt =P

    Quote Originally Posted by Drews View Post
    If he is planning on doing the occasional auto-x, my advice would be spring for the STI. Race miles are very, VERY hard on cars and the WRX 5 spd doesn't have the best reputation. If the OP is going to get an STI I would suggest he get one a year or two used.
    Yeah, I have my doubts about buying used WRX/STi's though. A lot of people ride them much harder than other cars.

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    I think the STi competes in a class above. So there's that.
    I believe so as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerBlitz View Post
    Yeah, I have my doubts about buying used WRX/STi's though. A lot of people ride them much harder than other cars.
    If you find one that is a year used, I doubt that it would be driven that hard. My car is pretty heavily modified and I don't drive it that hard. From what I see, newer STIs are generally out of the price range of people who have the mindset to constantly rag on the car. Most of the people in my area don't rag on their cars. It's best to find a one owner, used STI with low miles. The chances of it being beat to death is pretty slim.
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    I like the way you guys think. This is why I came here for advice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerBlitz View Post
    I am an extremely opinionated person, and have strong feelings towards a lot of things. I think it's best I leave it at that to avoid trolls and people getting butt-hurt =P
    Fair enough. Although I myself once despised the Miata for reasons likely similar to your own. That is until I took the Tier 1 of Performance Driving Course (PDC). Driving Miatas changed my opinion on the car
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerBlitz View Post
    I haven't decided if I want a base/premium or take a jump and go for the STi. I can definately afford both, one would just take longer to save up for. I want to see what people who have owned WRX/STis for a while think about their cars and if they are happy with the decision they made and why.
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    Your story sounds very similar to mine. If I were you, I would get the wrx (see if you could get the sunroof without the other options you dont want) for a couple reasons. You mentioned about "hopefully getting hired" and "best case scenario" so the money you think you might have might not be there for you. The modding bug is a powerful one and if you stretch to get the STI you may snap when you start to modify the car, bc lets face it, you will modify it. As for the Auto-xing, it sounds like your chances of doing it are on the lower side, so the extra money for the STI for something you probably wont do might not be worth it. Also, I feel like a lot of people are happier with a kartboy short throw shifter and some bushings over the SPT short shifter (anybody?).

    Also, black gets dirty VERY easily, so get blue...and then paint the wheels gold haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyRex View Post
    To be the old guy here ... a common mistake people make right out of school is to overspend on things - especially cars.
    Another way to look at it is that he (presumably) does not yet have a wife/kids as a constant, parasitic draw on his disposable income. Talk to a financial advisor, take care of the base of the pyramid, the retirement...and then blow all the rest of it on enjoying your 20's, I say.

    Which car is a subjective thing. The WRX is a sporty daily driver, the STI is a track car that you can drive on the street. Different focii.
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