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    battery? Alternator? wiring harness/ECU all ok? Coils replaced? Plugs seated correctly? Start small and work your way up.
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    this was satisfying, before i found out it wouldn't start.. Click image for larger version. 

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    There was a good thing about this weekend though. The dealership here, which had previously proved to be worthless, actually helped me on Friday. I went in after work to see if they could show me some part diagrams to help me put the hoses back in the right place, and they let me borrow these! Didn't ask for my name or a deposit or anything.. going to make some PDFs before I return them. I had the engine manual, but not the other ones. Click image for larger version. 

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    I'll be towing it somewhere tonight to see if they can figure out my electrical problem.

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    Battery, fuses, alternator, are all okay. Plugs are fine and are getting fuel. It turns over, it just doesn't fire up, so somewhere along the way I did something to make it so I don't have spark. I called a shop around here and they said it could be a bad sensor. Maybe I broke something when pulling things off, very possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogocricket View Post
    Battery, fuses, alternator, are all okay. Plugs are fine and are getting fuel. It turns over, it just doesn't fire up, so somewhere along the way I did something to make it so I don't have spark. I called a shop around here and they said it could be a bad sensor. Maybe I broke something when pulling things off, very possible.
    Crank position sensors are notorious for doing that. It's right under your alternator and IIRC they aren't too expensive. That's where I'd start.

    edit: I'm not sure if cam position sensors will cause the car not to start. On the LGT they just made the car run rough when they started to go out. Also, they are a PITA to get to.
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    I just read your whole post instead of working!

    Damn you are so close!

    Is your ECU showing any issues or wont it log anything unless it runs?

    You go girl!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    Oh.. somehow I missed that the manual for the body was on there when I used that link for the mechanical manual a while ago. I feel like I spent forever looking for the HVAC manual, but it's right there online. Saves me a lot of pdf making time


    Quote Originally Posted by Chowza View Post
    I just read your whole post instead of working!

    Damn you are so close!

    Is your ECU showing any issues or wont it log anything unless it runs?

    You go girl!!!!
    Yes sooo close... so it was really a bummer when I tried to start it and it didn't work I'm not sure about the ECU. I don't have my scanner anymore (borrowed it from brother and he has it again), and I'm not sure how they work with throwing codes before the engine is running. The guy at the shop said that he would plug it in and would be able to determine what the problem is, so maybe there is a code in there. I'm hoping so, and hoping its just a sensor or something easy.

    When I took it apart, I noticed that a sensor on the top of the block, toward the transmission, looked like it had pretty corroded connections. I tried to clean it up the best I could and I reused it, since I didn't have a problem with it before. Maybe I messed it up. Anyone know what that sensor is? It's by itself, and bolts directly into the top of the block near the center by the transmission. It has its own plug and plugs into the harness that comes off with the intake manifold if I remember correctly. Its like black plastic, it's round, and it has a hole in the center that a bolt goes through. The inside of the hole is metal, which seems like the sensor/electric contact part. Sorry if my description is not the best...

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    This is going to sound a little dumb.. but.. check all the grounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by gogocricket View Post
    When I took it apart, I noticed that a sensor on the top of the block, toward the transmission, looked like it had pretty corroded connections. I tried to clean it up the best I could and I reused it, since I didn't have a problem with it before. Maybe I messed it up. Anyone know what that sensor is? It's by itself, and bolts directly into the top of the block near the center by the transmission.
    That sounds like a crank position sensor (though, I could be wrong) .. that would definitely cause the ecu not to send spark signal to the coilpacks (as Drew mentioned). Sucks to get this far and have a hitch. Hang in there, it'll be worth it when the dust settles.
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    I did check all the grounds. I was hoping it was something dumb like that. I even took all the grounds back off, filed the connections, and put them all back on. Did not help, but worth a try.

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    Here we go... it's part 22060 in this pic. Anyone know what it is? It seems like the crank sensor is the one on the timing belt side, 22053. Am I wrong? Would whatever this sensor is cause a problem interrupting spark?

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    It's the home stretch! I'm somewhat amazed at how quickly you've gotten this done. Pretty sure if it were me, I'd still me at the cleaning phase... (I'm a measure 4 times, cut once kind of guy.)
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    answering my own question... the thing is the knock sensor i think. can that give me a no-start situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogocricket View Post
    really? ...yes of course i did
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    The knock sensor wont. The crank sensor will.

    It's super common for people to forget the crank sensor while putting everything back together. (Did it myself...)

    If you remove the alternator, there will be 2 plugs that you have to plug back in that lie under it.... one of them is the crank sensor
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