well, in honda wolrd lol, rotas were always looks down on as cheap rims. i had a set of slipstreams on my civic for a while. i liked them. i felt they were a bit heavy since i didnt have power steering so i went with an OEM enkei rim that was 11 pounds with out tires. had no problems then. so im not clowning your rota rims. subaru is a diffferent ball game and the culture is different too. so im trying to get out of the honda mind frame that ive had for over 6 yrs. sometimes old habits are hard to break lol.