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    Thanks for the advice man, I'm definetly keeping it in mind. I'm also going to ask the dealer if they have any kind of military discount or rebates. In the end, I beleive I'm gonna go for the 2011.

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    Glad to hear someone else made a decision similar to mine...no wing=the shizz....no heated seats/sunroof=meh.

    IMO the WRX's don't don't get prettier than wingless.
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    I've been talking to several dealers and so far, Surburban Subaru near Orlando is offering 200 below invoice. However, I'm heading to Jacksonville Subaru on Friday, I called them and they said that they can beat the price "very aggresivly." They seem to be offering a better deal, since I'm military, but they havne't given me a quote yet.

    I'll update on Friday.

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    Nice man, I had happen to call Suburban Subaru yesterday to ask a question about my tag work and had said someone had been recommended to us from the forums lol. Well goodluck man, idk who you were dealing with at Suburban but I delt with Steve Ellison and Eric (not so sure on his last name) but they know their stuff. GL man I hope you get what you want!

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    Well I've got an update.

    The Jax dealer gave me nearly the same price as the other one, actually, they gave me invoice price.

    They also have a 2005 wrx wagon in blue that has 160,000 miles on it for 9.8k. Too much mileage for me, but it was purty

    Either way, I've decided against getting the 2011. While I can afford it, I don't really want a large payment every month. I think the payments would take too much of the enjoyment out of the car for me.

    Instead, I've decided to try and find a blob-eye, after I sell my MR2, which hopefully should be in the next couple of weeks. For now, I wait though!

    As for the blob-eye, I would like to try to find a blue wrx, possibly the wagon, cuz i heart my mountain bikes. Unless I can get a roof bike carrier for the sedan. They see to be few and far between in Florida though.

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    What payments are you looking for? I financed 23k at 2.9% over 6 years which comes out to $350 per month.
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    Wagons are the way to go!

    Hey Rejor11

    Please escuse me for the interuption, have posted reply before with regard to your 2009 - 2011 dilema.
    Have to admit I was egging you on for the 2011.

    However!!!

    You seem to have seen sense, and I like your way of thinking.
    I purchased my 2001 WRX Wagon on Saturday 23 Oct. yes thats correct I've only had it five days.

    To be fair though I have driven just about every car on the european market because I was involved in the automotive industry for 21yrs.

    The simple fact is (if it is worth anything to you?) the Scooby wagon does it for me, even my mrs loves it! It's practical, fast, handles unbelievably, comfortable, smooth, enhansable and the best thing is everyone underestimates it cos it's a wagon. The look on their faces when their left for dust is quite addictive! In short, does exactly what it says on the badge (WRX.)

    Money wise you are definitly making the right move. we payed cash for ours and we get a great sense of pleasure when people say to us, "how much does that cost you a month?" to which we reply "about 20 -25mpg" they say, "no I mean the repayments," we say "there is no repayments mate it's ours, it's paid for!" So purchase an older one, don't fall into the trap!
    Bugeyes or hawkeys, the faults have been ironed out by the time they built these.

    Fuel wise, Subaru are not hiding anything from anyone! the hand book clearly tells you that (and I am talking english gallons(4.55ltrs) not US gallons(5ltrs)) urban driving 20 mpg non urban driving 28 -30 mpg. (just so you know what you're getting in to) I live on an Island that is 45sq miles total, 9 miles long 5 miles wide, and I seem to be getting 20 - 25 mpg. It really depends on how I use it!!!

    All is not lost though because over here, a remap giving 30hp more also gives an improvement of possibly as much as 20% more fuel efficiency, for me thats about 50 miles more per tank of gas. When we take it away that works out to be possibly as much as 70 miles per tank more. (don't know what the US spec wagon is but ours has according to Subaru, a 60ltr tank.

    They are a little thirsty, but big boys toys come with big boys prices!!!!!

    look around and find a good one, it is worth it in the end, do the math, if you have to travel a couple of hundred miles to find one, make sure the trip is worth it! Line up a few to look at while you are there. the drive back if you are succesfull will give you orientation of you're new purchase, not to mention confidence in it.

    you want to see a good service history in the book, (no book no buy!!!) preferably by Subaru agents, if not then specialists. Find out when it last had a cam belt. they are not cheap to have done. for me I expect to pay about hang on let me just calculate it to US dollars. $562.50 if it requires a tentioner $300 if not.

    My dealer tells me they can be a little heavier on brakes than the run of the mill shopping wagon and they will destroy tires if the tracking is out, so stay away from the sidewalks and be carefull over the driveways that require resurfacing.

    Look out for clutch judder. you really really really want to be the one that starts the car for the first time that day, listen out for rattles and if the clutch judders when pulling away, well it may be costly, it may need a new flywheel, Subaru are aware of this problem they have released a replacement flywheel to combat the issue, on test dip the clutch and raise the revs to about 4k and just dump the clutch you want it to bite IMEDIATLY, if not it will want a new clutch soon!!!! also if the clutch bites high, again new clutch soon!!!!

    Only look at unmolested Scoobies, I say this because I want you to enjoy you're Scooby when you get it! I don't want you to have to spend $ after $, there is a golden rule when it comes to purchasing second hand vehicles (regardless of make and model, it goes for all) you may well be inhereting someone elses problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If you choose to fit an air filtter, pipe and get it remapped, all well and good, but if it is already done! then so may be the rest of the car, ALREADY DONE!!! (in english english that means F****D cos an AHOLE of a petrol head may have abused the hell out of it in an effort to impress his mates, girlfriend and anyone else that entered the mix.

    Don't! let the seller sway you into believing it's the car for you.
    YOU decide if it is the car for you
    IF NOT! walk away, remember they want you're cash.
    THEY COULD NOT GIVE A F**K ABOUT YOU!!! THEY WANT YOPU'RE CASH!!!!!

    Don't turn up and act like a *****, you say what you want and DON'T start backing down the minute the seller starts talking, even if he seems like a decent bloke. It's all TACTICS!!!! THEY WANT YOU'RE CASH REMEMBER!!!!!! Leave the S**t where it is, you don't want it!!!

    Make sure ALL the controls in the car work! ALL! Drive down the centre of the road at say 40 - 50 mph (on a decent strait flat road) and let go of the steering wheel, (BUT stay on gaurd) if ti wanders left or right or shoots off in any direction, it may have issues! again at the same speed stab at the brake pedal (JUST a quick on and off but be firm) if you get a jolt through the steering the bushes in the front arms need replacing! possibly even tie bar bushes!

    Make sure ALL the panels line up, if not it may have had a hard crash!! you do not want it!!!

    Mate, Icould go on and on and on, but here is the long and short of it.
    USE YOUR COMMON SENSE!!!! DON@T BELIEVE THE HIPE!
    and only purchase the car you WANT to purchase.

    IT'S a game mate! play the game right and you wil get what you want, but remember you are purchasing a second hand car NOT a new one!

    It is not much of a guide but! we live on a small Island, Scooby wagons are few and far between every one wants a sedan.
    We found (Luckily) a 58000 2001 bugeye wagon, 1 Owner full service history with Subaru agent, had a little paint work but nothing major, for a very very reasonable price. and to top it off! I recognised $1500 worth of work that our scooby requires doing to it, and the dealer said no problem Martin we will do ALL of that work for you! NO extra money, no questions asked!

    REMEMBER! the world is in recetion, its a buyers market, if you have to tolerate the MR2 a little bit longer then tolerate it a bit longer!

    To Finish.

    I trully hope you find a good one and I get to here from you in the future, There are good ones out there you just have to look for them and I do mean LOOK for them.


    Ps, don't know you but hope you are not affended by my reply, maybe you know the score, maybe you don't If you don't read my message a couple of times, get it in to your head and go searching for THE RIGHT CAR FOR YOU!!!! DON'T BELIEVE THE HIPE!!!!! and take a pen and paper with you so you can list ALL the faults if any.

    Good luck
    And good hunting
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    PS, remember DON'T be a *****
    THEY WANT YOU'RE MONEY SO ONLY SPEND IT ON THE CAR THAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

    PPSS.Im not dislecksick, english words are spelt different to US english!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    Hope you end up with the same smile I have, cos after 5 days I've still got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

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    PURCHASING A SCOOBY?

    The above is relevant to all


    Hope it does not put you off owning a scooby cos there great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

    For a couple of pics:

    Google:

    "Subaru Impreza WRX wagon"

    You won't be disapointed

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    Marty, thanks for the reply, and no worries, I wasn't offended or anything, you got some good advice. I'll write it all down for when I find a subbie, and until then, I'm waiting for my MR2 to sell.

    I'm really partial to the blobeye'd 2005 model. Quick question though, do they all come with the roof racks? Can I take them off when I want, or are they a permament fixture?

    As it is right now, I'm looking for a blue 2005 wagon. I like the sedan, but I'd rather have the extra bit of room. The STI looks nice, but I hear that it starts to cost quite a bit with maintenance down the road. Plus I'm not a fan of the wing, it makes me wonder if I'm a pilot or a driver :P lol

    The 2006 hawkeye model makes me think it's a toyota for some reason. I think it's the headlights. Not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clovis View Post
    What payments are you looking for? I financed 23k at 2.9% over 6 years which comes out to $350 per month.
    If I sold my mr2 and put the money down on a new subbie, it would be about that much for me, but I just don't want to have that kind of payment.

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    I was hoping you'd get the 2011 but hey, if you can get a good used one an not have a payment (or a very small one) more power to you!
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    Reply to Rejor11

    Hey Rejor11

    Would you believe it! Just wrote an answer to your answer and lost my connection so sorry if this one is brief! The last one was not. loads of info.
    And excuse the grammer and spelling, you’ll get the general understanding I am sure.
    Oh well another day. Tip for the future. Write in a word processor andcopy and paste!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Well in brief
    Never seen a Scooby come out of the factory without roof rails.
    I think it is safe to say that Scooby only have one roof skin press for the wagon cos they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to make, yes that is correct. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO MAKE.
    Trust me I studied this stuff at UNI!!!
    If you take the rails off you will have holes to blank off, when you want to put them back on or take them off you will have to drop and refit the roof lining. The more you take it down and refit it the more you wear it and all the fixings, screws and screw holes out.
    The roof rack fixes to the roof rails

    From what I understand STIs do cost more to own and run they use STI specific parts. If STIs are your thing I can categorically say right now they do make an STI wagon. Don’t know if it is available in the US but they do make them. (I lived in New Zealand for a while and there was a good few running around there.

    Check out, on this forum “the official wagon thread” there is if my memory serves me well a couple of pics of wagons without roof rails.

    Also check out “2004 WRX STI crash” on you tube, you gotta feel sorry for the guy.
    Looked like a nice motor. Lesson is do not swerve for bambi’s!!!!
    And oh yeah, totally understand what you mean about the head lights.

    Well like I said sorry it was brief,, wrote another lengthy reply for you before but my ISP F****d that up for us.
    If I can help, just call.
    Just so you know, I have a young son and I can’t stand the crap my mrs watches on our tv (oh well thats love) so I am on this forum regular, + my e-mail notifies me of replies so if you have a question just ask., if I don’t know the answer I will research it, quiz my dealer, AND verify his answers. It’s all good for me to know too!!! After all I own a Scooby!

    Take care
    Best wishes
    And kind regards
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    Halloween in the uk is today 31 October what is it in the US, after all it is a US thing, we just inherited it!

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    Parking lots

    Hey Rejor11

    The brilliant thing about having a family is:

    I get to park in the familly parking spaces where there is no chance of anybody wacking my car with their doors cos there is S**T loads of space between the bays. Ha Ha Ha.

    watch out for those dings and dents now won't you

    Marty

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    Kids

    Don't rush in to kids though.

    They cost a fortune

    Just had to by him a double screen headrest attaching DVD player so he can watch Cars the Disney movie in the car.

    Bang goes another $150

    Marty

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    Hey Marty.

    Well, I pulled the trigger on a 2010 white pearl hatch from, of all places, a ford dealership, lol. It has 7,600 miles on it. It's the base model, but has a 6cd changer, boost gauge, and a rear bumper cover. Personally I don't like the boost gauge... but then again I don't really pay attention to it. Oh, and I verified that the options were all dealer installed.

    Either way, I got it for 20k out the door.

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