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    Trying to decide... MS3 or WRX 2010

    Hi All.. great info here! I'm really on the fence at the moment after driving both the MS3 and WRX. Coming from a '08 Miata, I suppose NOTHING will be as tight in the twisties. I found the WRX to be a little soft (leaned quite a bit in the corners) but was comfortable. The MS3 was much tighter and the acceleration more neck-snapping while the WRX was more linear. One huge advantage to me (coming from the miata) is that a moonroof is available along with heated seats.. both of which the MS3 is without. I drove a second WRX today and it seemed less "soft" and I actually liked it. Unfortunately, the only premiums around here are blue and my first choices are white and silver.

    Some questions for 09/10 owners:

    1. Does the bright yellow "Airbag on/off" light ALWAYS stay illuminated in the info display?

    2. Does the STI short shift option already installed also have the bushing or are they separate?

    3. Is the 10-speaker radio THAT bad (haven't heard it yet).

    4. What DON'T you like about your '09/'10?

    Thanks so much guys!!!

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    what year ms3? the 2010's (IMO) are completely different than the old ones. not just based upon looks but the car feels totally different than it used to. not as much wheel hop/torque steer.

    other than that; a few factors to consider :

    - a 2010 MS3 is cheaper than a wrx
    - do you need AWD?
    - have you checked your insurance quotes?

    overall you're the only one that can make the decision. which one did you enjoy more? they're two totally different cars

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    Hey, I came from a modded 05 Mazdaspeed Miata. Nothing will replicate the handling of an FR roadster. The airbag light? nope, should be off.

    After 9 months and 9200 miles on the clock.

    What I like:
    AWD
    Roomy (anything is roomy after an MX5)
    Huge aftermarket support
    Mountains of potential
    Comfy daily driver
    Looks. Yeah, I LOVE the look of the new generation Rex.
    Hatchback FTW
    Things I didnt have before: Heated seats, cruise control, room!

    What I dont like:
    Handling.... must...get....sway bars.
    Stereo, even the 10 speaker is lackluster. But you get used to it
    Squeaks and rattles like nothing I've owned before, even Fords.
    Aftermarket parts can be pricey.
    Stock horrible shifter.
    Tricky as hell to launch.

    Thats it in a nutshell. All of my dislikes can be fixed aside from the rattles. The performance to dollar ratio is really hard to beat on these cars. I really enjoy mine. I cross-shopped and MS3 as well. Great car, but its horribly asthmatic above 4.5k, thats where the fun starts with the Subie. Anyway, you cant go wrong with either. Its all about what you are going to be happy with. Good luck!
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    Is the insurance THAT bad on the WRX? I'm 41, male, perfect driving record.

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    I've had my 09 WRX for about 2-3 months now and besides getting used to the radio (which actually isn't that bad if you listen to it above 30) is all i can ask for IMO. The suspension could be better but then again i live in florida so i really dont have to worry about it

    As far as insurance goes I'm 19 with no wrecks, tickets, ect.. and my insurance is right around $190. So i dont know what you would consider "bad" but it doesn't seem like it to me seeing as my last car was a 2k ford escort zx2 and it was only $50 less.

    Good luck choosing!

    P.S. to all those who are probably thinkin it, I purchased my car my parents did not

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    One of the largest deciding factors is ... After you have driven the two which one do you like more!?!?!?

    Aside from that what are you looking for int he car? Do you need the AWD?

    I test drove the s2000, 09 a mustang GT, 09 a MS3, and an 09 rally art, and an older evo 03 i think cant remember...

    I prefered the wrx for multiple reasons.. It fit me much better.

    We get snow and I need the awd.

    Warranty has been amazing so far. (subaru repainted my car because of rock chips!!!) ...

    The comunity is better IMO. Community may not seem that important but when your in a car for more then 3 years you want to surround yourself with like minded good people. (this is why I stopped rock crawling jeeps... Jeep shop owners are pricks)

    Stereo can be a problem yes, but chances are your going to upgrade after a year of having your car anyhow. My radio doesnt seem bad at all. I do want to upgrade to a touch screen kenwood though.

    I like that the wrx has that hood scoop. The car is sexy but doesnt draw to much attention and that right up my alley. I cant stand cars with to much flash.

    I fit in the wrx better then the other cars... I can fly around a corner at 60 and then drive cross country and be comfortable...

    After market support seems better then most. But give it time all cars will have a large following.

    If you can afford the STi over the wrx go STi...

    Its really going to come down to what you want... drive em and find out...
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    [QUOTE=jmatero;2544673]Hi All.. great info here! I'm really on the fence at the moment after driving both the MS3 and WRX. Coming from a '08 Miata, I suppose NOTHING will be as tight in the twisties. I found the WRX to be a little soft (leaned quite a bit in the corners) but was comfortable. The MS3 was much tighter and the acceleration more neck-snapping while the WRX was more linear. One huge advantage to me (coming from the miata) is that a moonroof is available along with heated seats.. both of which the MS3 is without. I drove a second WRX today and it seemed less "soft" and I actually liked it. Unfortunately, the only premiums around here are blue and my first choices are white and silver.

    I drove several new '09 and '10 MS3's. I was close to buying a '10 MS3 because of the exceptional torque to dollar factor. One celestial blue MS3 was particularly potent compared to other MS3's of the same MY. Ultimately, what turned me off was not the torque steer or even the stupid front end, but that the '10 MS3 felt top heavy, the steering feel was a bit numb during medium speed decreasing radius turns and it was FWD. Seemed more like a straight-line machine, even though road tests claim otherwise. After driving a 2010 GTI (with 18" inch Huffs) and a Ralliart, I connected with my WRX HB immediately. It felt right. Good luck.

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    I'm not sure I could ever drive a "powerful" FWD car. Any play car I get would have to be RWD or AWD due to traction issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willard View Post
    Squeaks and rattles like nothing I've owned before, even Fords.

    I doubt that's the norm. It took ~90k miles before I developed anything like that in my '02.

    Aftermarket parts can be pricey.

    Uh, yeah....go price out a set of headers for an E39 M5 and get back to me..... (to save you time, $3,500-7,000)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunk112 View Post
    I've had my 09 WRX for about 2-3 months now and besides getting used to the radio (which actually isn't that bad if you listen to it above 30) is all i can ask for IMO. The suspension could be better but then again i live in florida so i really dont have to worry about it

    As far as insurance goes I'm 19 with no wrecks, tickets, ect.. and my insurance is right around $190. So i dont know what you would consider "bad" but it doesn't seem like it to me seeing as my last car was a 2k ford escort zx2 and it was only $50 less.

    Good luck choosing!

    P.S. to all those who are probably thinkin it, I purchased my car my parents did not
    Jeeeeesus I'm 18, perfect driving record, paying like $250 a month for my 06 WRX wagon. I'd kill to pay $190/month.

    But it really is 100% worth it.
    Wow, this car rocks.

    I live on the autobahns of Germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmatero View Post
    Is the insurance THAT bad on the WRX? I'm 41, male, perfect driving record.
    insurance varies so much and there are so many factors. what might be cheap to me could be bad for you. best thing is to call your insurance company and get quotes before you purchase either.

    take a look at this thread so you can get an idea:
    Insurance for WRX's and STI's

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    Just test drove both this week on Wednesday. I'm on this forum so you know what I chose. The thing about the WRX is that most of the complaints you'll hear about can be fixed aftermarket.
    The short shifter is a must and if you want better handling (which would be for personal preference) just upgrade the front sway bar or add the front stabilizing bar with the SPT version (keeps warranty in tack.) Want a better radio- upgrade it.
    But you can't upgrade front wheel drive to all wheel drive. I took that MS3 speed into a right turn and it almost took me into the parking lot I was going around. Also, I noticed that over bumps the MS3 is very stiff making it a more uncomfortable daily driver. I don't want to feel every bump in the road, and neither do my wife and kids.
    If I have a complaint, the WRX dash is pretty plain, and should have come with a boost psi gauge already.
    I drove a BMW 323i for 4 years before this.
    I'm very happy with my choice.

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    I've never owned a Benz, BMW or anything German simply for that reason. Plus, Germany is the only country that can manufacture a 400 HP car that runs 15s in the 1/4. But I digress.

    As far as insurance, I have 3 cars with full coverage plus home insurance and pay $165 a month.
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    Only thing I don't like about my 09 wrx is that a stinkin rock hit my passanger fog light and broke it.

    Insurance varies. I only pay 800 a year...but I'm married, own a house (home owners insurance) and have another car (wife's sentra) on the policy as well.

    Advice on lowering your insurance: Call the company and ask them if your eligable for any discounts. I have done this several times and I have completed a survey online and received 5% + discount. Sometimes they have multiple things you can do and you can get a significant discount. Definately worth a call.

    My only other advice - test drive an STI. I saw one today and was wishing that I had considered it. I didn't test drive one b/c I knew if I did....I'd buy it. And at the time, that wasn't a smart $$$ decision. However now I wish I did.

    Good luck and let us know what you end up getting.
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