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    From Turbo Buick to WRX

    Hey all -

    Just wanted to say hello, came over to the WRX from an '87 Buick Grand National. For all those unaware, it's a turbo-V6 that Buick made in the late 80's that spanked most anything around, and it was a great car. I modified the hell out of it with bolt-ons and never tore into the motor, but it went quite well.

    Anyways, I needed a combo daily driver/fun car so I settled on an '06 WRX with the 5spd, loaded w/ all the goodies (WOW a lot has changed since 1987!) and I just love it so far. I want to make sure I can have some fun without making it unreliable, so any tips in caring for these cars would definitely be appreciated.

    And while I know this isn't the forum for this question, but does anybody bother going Stage 1 on these cars? It seems pointless to drop $700 on a Cobb AP for 0.4 hp and 6/7 ft lbs tq, but maybe thats just me.
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    Welcome!! People do go stage 1 on these cars...but typically go to stage 2 shortly thereafter.
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    GN's are sicccccccck the spool sounds ridiculous yeah stage 1 is a joke on a subaru go stage 2 most of us do!
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    from 1987 Buick GN to WRX STI

    Guess its not just me, but I also came from a Buick GN to a 2006 WRX STI that I'm about to purchase. Just wanted to have a fun little buggy myself, with some nice horsepower...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoolinUpGN View Post
    Hey all -

    Just wanted to say hello, came over to the WRX from an '87 Buick Grand National. For all those unaware, it's a turbo-V6 that Buick made in the late 80's that spanked most anything around, and it was a great car. I modified the hell out of it with bolt-ons and never tore into the motor, but it went quite well.

    Anyways, I needed a combo daily driver/fun car so I settled on an '06 WRX with the 5spd, loaded w/ all the goodies (WOW a lot has changed since 1987!) and I just love it so far. I want to make sure I can have some fun without making it unreliable, so any tips in caring for these cars would definitely be appreciated.

    And while I know this isn't the forum for this question, but does anybody bother going Stage 1 on these cars? It seems pointless to drop $700 on a Cobb AP for 0.4 hp and 6/7 ft lbs tq, but maybe thats just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyWRXY987 View Post
    GN's are sicccccccck the spool sounds ridiculous yeah stage 1 is a joke on a subaru go stage 2 most of us do!
    Haha, yes they do have quite the spooling sound, especially with some mods

    So I understand what most people are saying about just going to stage 2 because that's not a big deal and it's a noticeable gain for these cars, but my question is whether or not as a "temp" I look into an open-map solution for going Stage 1? Has anyone ever seen good results out of these on an otherwise stock 06 wrx? Thx guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyWRXY987 View Post
    GN's are sicccccccck the spool sounds ridiculous yeah stage 1 is a joke on a subaru go stage 2 most of us do!
    Oh please.

    If you actually put any thought into it you'd realize that ECU reflashes on an otherwise stock car (ie stage 1) is not done for power. It's done for driveability by smoothing out the powerband.

    That being said, $700 for an AP is a waste of money when you can get a custom tune with OpenSource for nothing more than the cost of the tune itself.

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    State 1 for an '06 from COBB:

    Stage 1 for Stock Vehicles. 91 octane fuel. 255HP (+11%)/ 300lb-ft (+28%)

    That's impressive man all that torque just from a Stage 1 upgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoolinUpGN View Post
    Hey all -

    Just wanted to say hello, came over to the WRX from an '87 Buick Grand National. For all those unaware, it's a turbo-V6 that Buick made in the late 80's that spanked most anything around, and it was a great car. I modified the hell out of it with bolt-ons and never tore into the motor, but it went quite well.

    Anyways, I needed a combo daily driver/fun car so I settled on an '06 WRX with the 5spd, loaded w/ all the goodies (WOW a lot has changed since 1987!) and I just love it so far. I want to make sure I can have some fun without making it unreliable, so any tips in caring for these cars would definitely be appreciated.

    And while I know this isn't the forum for this question, but does anybody bother going Stage 1 on these cars? It seems pointless to drop $700 on a Cobb AP for 0.4 hp and 6/7 ft lbs tq, but maybe thats just me.
    Noobs buy the Cobb AP. A few years back before open source (romraider) was widely embraced - Cobb was the best option, prior to that - Turbo XS and Vishnu.

    Stand alones are available, though not required unless you're looking to do some high power applications and want to augment your tuning with some niche features not possible with the stock ecu.

    And now a nice description I found regarding the GN - I wanted one when I was a kid.

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    Then the 1986 Grand National rolled up, told the footnotes to get stuffed, and barked second as it peeled away. The only mechanical difference between the '86 Grand National and the previous year was the addition of an air-to-air intercooler, and it's a difference that changed the car from an also-ran into the business. Power went to 235 horses, torque went to 330 lb-ft, and Chevrolet's marketing department went ape****. The 1986 Grand National was now more powerful than any American car on the market, violating GM's long-standing rule that nothing ever was allowed to outgun the Corvette. Buick's pandering "official" estimate had the car running high 15s but trapping at 97.3mph, which in the real world puts the Grand National deep into 14-second quarters.
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    Noobs buy the Cobb AP. A few years back before open source (romraider) was widely embraced - Cobb was the best option, prior to that - Turbo XS and Vishnu.
    Only problem I'm having is that I have a Mac, and I can't run any tuner software whatsoever

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    Quote Originally Posted by lundholm08 View Post
    Only problem I'm having is that I have a Mac, and I can't run any tuner software whatsoever
    bootcamp - windows

    buy an open box laptop from best buy and use it for 30 days then return it

    borrow a laptop from a friend

    there are options
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah View Post
    bootcamp - windows

    buy an open box laptop from best buy and use it for 30 days then return it

    borrow a laptop from a friend

    there are options
    Buy one from Best Buy and then return it "what was wrong with it?" "nothing, I just need to tune my car real quick, thanks!"

    But yea, you're right, there are options. Think I'm gonna have to run Windows on this here Mac like you said with boot camp or something like it

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    Honestly what i would do is just ditch the POS Mac and get a real computer. i.e (IBM format)

    just my $0.02

    oh yeah my laptop died this last weekend but all up and running and better before, u can't fix a mac it just dies and thats it.

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    I also like the fact that since my car went in for a warranty repair for the key-fobs not working, I drove the car to the dealership on my pro-tune map, changed it back to the factory map, got the car fixed, picked it up and changed back to my pro-tune map with no hassles, no using my laptop, no nothing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brfatal View Post
    Oh please.

    If you actually put any thought into it you'd realize that ECU reflashes on an otherwise stock car (ie stage 1) is not done for power. It's done for driveability by smoothing out the powerband.
    OK, apparently I need to put more thought into it.

    I can't believe people started knockin mac's in my first thread! Mac-owner here and to all those who say get a "real" computer, I'll take the fact that I can run a virtual machine version of Windows on my MacBook Pro better than it runs on my Windows-native laptop. I think there's just a little bit of jealousy from those unlucky people who have never actually sat down and used a Mac. LOL and love the best buy return idea, gotta love how best buy lets you return anything and everything no matter what!

    Thanks for the other input from all those about the AP versus a custom open-source tune, I think I'll look into the latter for that whole "better driveability" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoolinUpGN View Post
    OK, apparently I need to put more thought into it.
    This is why people flash their cars with stage 1 (it's a baseline dyno run on a stock WRX):


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