^^ the 08/09 wrx/sti's dont have any connectors under the dash.
you literally just plug in the AP and flash your maps.
This is a discussion on To cobb or not to cobb? within the New Member Hangout forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; ^^ the 08/09 wrx/sti's dont have any connectors under the dash. you literally just plug in the AP and flash ...
If I had the cash laying around, I'd probably do it. You might pay $700 up front, but when the car's off lease, unmarry the AP, come back here, and sell it to recoop some of your investment. Depending on how long your lease is you can get a few hundred bucks back. When you get rid of the car, you're net loss isn't nearly what you paid up front. There are people who will be out there looking for a used one at that point. That's how I got mine for my '04.
It's nice because it's simple and has hours and hours of R&D behind it. It's safe, it's an improved tune from OEM, and you'll get more out of your engine.
Last edited by Ying; 01-09-2009 at 02:26 PM.
The AP is fine, it will make a difference to the performance but not as much as a tune for your individual car. I would wait a few thousand miles before installing it - let your engine bed in before putting extra stress on it. I love having the AP on my 08, it allows me to switch between the Cobb map when I am travelling, a high altitude map for at home and stock for more stability on the snow.
COBB AP it is!!!!!
1) sounds like there's too much risk in running maps that haven't been tested as thoroughly as the COBB.
2) I don't want to borrow a cable every time I want to flash a new map and or flash it back.
3) $ If I can sell it on the back end it's really not that much more. Plus, people say you need Oxygen aand boost sensors to run the Opentune- how much are those?
4) The device just seems easier to install. Yes I understand you're paying a premium for that luxury- but that's worth it to me.
Oh... and are people in agreement that this adds roughly 42 HP? or am I misreading that???
A good custom tune > OTS mapOriginally Posted by WRX-ER
You can buy a tactrix cable and a laptop for less than you'd spend on an AP, and be able to surf the net and do other stuff with it.Originally Posted by WRX-ER
You can sell the tactrix cable as well (I'd keep the laptop). You can read your boost levels via datalogs. WBO2 is beneficial for any type of tune. If you're going to be creating a custom ECU map, then reading via wideband is really what you want. If you get your tune done at a shop, they'll have everything you need, so you'll only pay for the tune ($250-400) rather than anything else.Originally Posted by WRX-ER
There's no real difference in ease flashing the ECU via AP or laptopOriginally Posted by WRX-ER
#s vary based on dyno type, weather, altitude, gas, etc.Originally Posted by WRX-ER
Also, FWIW: I've heard a lot more instances where the Cobb AP "bricks" the ECU than I have using open-source.
Last edited by EJ257; 01-09-2009 at 04:15 PM.