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This is a discussion on New Guy! within the New Member Hangout forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by nbudros I know how to search, and i figured some one was going to flame me, but ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbudros View Post
    I know how to search, and i figured some one was going to flame me, but I was just asking in MY thread because me and 2 other people where talking back and forth. But its cool ill just search, at least i didnt make a new thread...
    I was simply stating (in a nice way) that if you use the search function you will find out that BOVs are terrible for our cars. The stock on is perfectly fine. Its kind of a "if its not broken, don't try to fix it" deal.
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    I have been told that Subaru dealers can now detect if you have flashed your car - even if you reflash back to the stock map.

    Since there are no eproms on the CPU, I am not sure how this is done. The reflash must slightly alter the checksum in some way. Again, this is rumor only and I don't know first hand. However, the rumor was enough to keep me away from it until my warranty runs out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjboudreaux77 View Post
    I have been told that Subaru dealers can now detect if you have flashed your car - even if you reflash back to the stock map.

    Since there are no eproms on the CPU, I am not sure how this is done. The reflash must slightly alter the checksum in some way. Again, this is rumor only and I don't know first hand. However, the rumor was enough to keep me away from it until my warranty runs out.
    I figured if i save for 3 years and get about 3g's together saving minimal money, once my warranties up i drop 3 g's into it and supe it up and have more fun with it. Right now its plenty for me.

    xtreme, thank you I found that article...

    ajd111, no worries

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    My car is a Subaru Impreza WRX sti right? Cus a lot of places just have WRX, and mines the sti, so its technically a wrx but not all wrx's are stis right?

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    yup. there are these models:

    subaru impreza (doesnt have a turbo roughly 197 hp i believe)
    subaru impreza WRX (turbo.. roughly 230hp)
    subaru impreza WRX STi (turbo, roughly 300 hp)


    those are the 3 different levels. so yes, not all wrx's are sti's

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbudros View Post
    My car is a Subaru Impreza WRX sti right? Cus a lot of places just have WRX, and mines the sti, so its technically a wrx but not all wrx's are stis right?
    this question would never be asked b4 by a subaru owner, thank you redesign!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwdTurboWrx View Post
    this question would never be asked b4 by a subaru owner, thank you redesign!!!
    It was just unclear because there was no STi category on some sites and I just wanted to make sure that I need to keep looking before I buy the wrong things.

    It was less of an issue with subaru and more of an issue with the website being un clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtreme06 View Post
    yup. there are these models:

    subaru impreza (doesnt have a turbo roughly 197 hp i believe)
    subaru impreza WRX (turbo.. roughly 230hp)
    subaru impreza WRX STi (turbo, roughly 300 hp)


    those are the 3 different levels. so yes, not all wrx's are sti's
    "Subaru Impreza i" has 170hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbudros View Post
    It was just unclear because there was no STi category on some sites and I just wanted to make sure that I need to keep looking before I buy the wrong things.

    It was less of an issue with subaru and more of an issue with the website being un clear.
    My whole point was subaru used to be an enthusiast thing and everybody who bought the car knew everything about it. Now with the redesign they are targeting the rest i guess, and apparently its working.
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    like i said, i wasnt sure. thanks for confirming! haha

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    I love my car though, so its all good.

    Every enthusiast has to start some where right? My friends all suggested I test drive one, and so I did and I fell in love with it. Im just trying to learn,

    Also if i didnt want a 08 i would have gotten an 04, so its not like dont know anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbudros
    Also if i didnt want a 08 i would have gotten an 04, so its not like dont know anything.
    Everyone knows '05 is the best year

    In all seriousness, though - I got to ride in a Cobb StageI '08 a few months ago, and it was great. I normally don't like hatches, but it was about as quick as my car, and it rode a lot more comfortably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbudros View Post
    I love my car though, so its all good.

    Every enthusiast has to start some where right? My friends all suggested I test drive one, and so I did and I fell in love with it. Im just trying to learn,

    Also if i didnt want a 08 i would have gotten an 04, so its not like dont know anything.
    subaru has that affect on people when you drive it, makes u fall in love with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwdTurboWrx View Post
    subaru has that affect on people when you drive it, makes u fall in love with it.
    I drove it, got out of it gave him my card, and my information that i use to sign up for things, sn, and all that stuff and i took it for another ride while he filled out the paper work, I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjboudreaux77 View Post
    I have been told that Subaru dealers can now detect if you have flashed your car - even if you reflash back to the stock map.

    Since there are no eproms on the CPU, I am not sure how this is done. The reflash must slightly alter the checksum in some way. Again, this is rumor only and I don't know first hand. However, the rumor was enough to keep me away from it until my warranty runs out.
    Taken from Unibomber's Manifesto.



    Can the dealer detect my reflashed ECU (AccessPort/EcuTek/Open Source)?

    YES the checksum of the ECU changes.
    YES the dealer can easily read the checksum.

    NO the dealer has nothing to compare the checksum against there are many revisions of the WRX ecu they all have different checksums. If the dealer had someway of putting this checksum into a database he COULD verify that the code had been modified but at this time he doesn't.

    The 05+ ECU and some of the 04s have the VIN in the ECU code. The current versions of reflashed ECUs only change the tables so the VIN will report when queried.

    Bottom line: If you don't want modifications to be detected, don't modify the car.



    It's great reading for a new owner. It can be found here > Unabomber's Manifesto - NASIOC

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