Questions for the 04-05 owners

[2K4ex]

From what I have read these cars do respond well to mods. And
from what I gathered the first best mods to do would be downpipe
and cobb accessport as you guys said. I had a friend who had a
04 WRX I believe and he told me to get the STI or dont get one. Due
to the tranny being weak. How much hp is it able to take? I hope to learn
a good amount about motor since im a Honda guy thanks for the help guys!

[20WRX04]

I wouldn't worry too much about the tranny. They've gotten better over the years. There's a lot of people who are at stage 2 on the stock tranny w/o any problems, including me. Even if you beat on it stock, the tranny might fail. If you treat it good, it will return the favor. It seems like you've done your research here. Good deal.
I wish more people would use the info that's already on this site instead of asking over & over.

[mjboudreaux77]

My 2 cents... I prefer the 06/07 look and they have the bigger engine, for what its worth (also, no need for an UP like in previous needs).

When I was looking, used 05s were within $100 of used 06s with similiar miles - a statement that these cars hold value fairly well.

Also - my previous insurance provider was nuts on their price for my WRX. Geico came in at about 1/2 the price of my existing carrier. I live in Vermont where rates are generally cheap though.

[jasonspeed]

Awesome! You guys seem really cool. Ive surfed other car sites and
some people can be so ignorant it kills me. Thanks for the welcomes,
the car seems sick I have sat in one but yet to drive it. I have actually
driven the 2005 RSX-S already at my previous work (Tire Kingdom). And
wasnt all that impressed, my brothers new 07 civic si 4 door felt faster
than it. Im really opting my choice as the WRX, maybe i can lean my
folks into the larger co-sign amount i.e. Sti but who knows.

the few good STi's I've seen around here ave been 04's that are going for the same as a new WRX. And I believe insurance may be a bit higher on the Sti. I'm 27 year old parent and have a decent record, only 1 major violation in the past 3 years and I'm paying about $140. I would've gone for the Sti, but I really didn't want to swing the payments fo rthe loan and insurance. I would say start with a WRX, build up some credit, then trade it in or sell it to upgrade to an Sti. Your insurance will be cheaper when you're older and Subies seem to retain their value very well if you take care of them

[20WRX04]

Also - my previous insurance provider was nuts on their price for my WRX. Geico came in at about 1/2 the price of my existing carrier.

+1. An STi will be outrageous for insurance, assuming you're under 25.

I would've gone for the Sti, but I really didn't want to swing the payments fo rthe loan and insurance. I would say start with a WRX, build up some credit, then trade it in or sell it to upgrade to an Sti. Your insurance will be cheaper when you're older and Subies seem to retain their value very well if you take care of them

+1. Welcome Jasonspeed.
Go Giants!

[teflon_jones]

Why are you going to trade in your Honda? You're losing a few thousand dollars by doing that versus selling it privately...

[mjboudreaux77]

Why are you going to trade in your Honda? You're losing a few thousand dollars by doing that versus selling it privately...

Personally, I know lots of people who went the "sell it themselves" route and eventually went back to just trading it in. If you need the $ for the downpayment, you either have to sell it before-hand (meaning, you don't know when you will be able to buy the car you want - or will have to go some time without a car while you find it) or just trade it in.

I probably lost some $ trading in my car, but I was able to get the exact WRX I wanted...

[Mikie13]

+1. An STi will be outrageous for insurance, assuming you're under 25.

I live in NJ...I pay $175 a month (before turning 25, just turned it in Dec.) for FULL coverage on an 07 STI. My driving record is horrible too...

I'm with Progressive...

I don't think thats outrageous at all considering other people I know are paying $300+ a month for just a WRX in some parts of NJ...

[05wrx4U2nv]

i owned a 2005 wrx and am a honda tech.if your looking for speed and go fast the wrx is fun.i had a tuned vf34 and ran a 12.7 on a stock 2.0 block.i can tell you the k series motor will sawp right into your civic and will beat on a wrx from a roll and with bolt on be in the 12s.i have seen it done many of times and your insurance will be lower,car more dependable and cheaper to fix.i say stick with the civic.
*puts his flame suit on*

[Mikie13]

i owned a 2005 wrx and am a honda tech.if your looking for speed and go fast the wrx is fun.i had a tuned vf34 and ran a 12.7 on a stock 2.0 block.i can tell you the k series motor will sawp right into your civic and will beat on a wrx from a roll and with bolt on be in the 12s.i have seen it done many of times and your insurance will be lower,car more dependable and cheaper to fix.i say stick with the civic.
*puts his flame suit on*

It depends on what you want in a car however...the K-series is indeed great engine. I too have seen many fast ones, even turbo'd and supercharged on the stock internals, that last a good amount of time. however if you are looking for a car thats gonna keep its power on the ground and not spin the front wheels into oblivion (generalization, I know thats not the case all the time)...AWD WRX is the way to go.

[teflon_jones]

Personally, I know lots of people who went the "sell it themselves" route and eventually went back to just trading it in. If you need the $ for the downpayment, you either have to sell it before-hand (meaning, you don't know when you will be able to buy the car you want - or will have to go some time without a car while you find it) or just trade it in.

I probably lost some $ trading in my car, but I was able to get the exact WRX I wanted...

I guess it just takes putting in the effort! It does take a good bit of coordination if you only have 1 car, but I look at it like this: You're getting paid thousands of dollars to do it. I've always been able to work it out though I will admit it wasn't easy all the time.

[Risquéru]

Hi! I bought a 2005 WRX new and I love it!! I learned how to drive stick on it. It did verrrry well with how many times I killed it in the beginning! Haha.. If I had known how to drive standard before hand, I would have gotten the STi for sure. I pay around $230 a month and I'm 21 years old. Insurance is expensive, but it's worth it. Subaru parts are expensive and take a while to order. My vehicle is still stock(warranty almost up!), but I'm planning on tuning my exhaust first.

[05wrx4U2nv]

its all in what you want.i say the k20 or 24 with bolt-on and k pro ecu will leave the stg2 wrx in the dust.im a fan of both. i own a honda and subaru.but for alot cheap do the k and you will have alot more fun.you break something its alot cheaper to fix and easier

[2K4ex]

Hey thanks for all the input. I have thought about doing the motor swap
on my car but it is quite expensive. It might be a little cheaper than the
WRX but not by much. I have seen people in other civic forums swap the
05 type-s motor, with new axles, mounts, bolts-ons and labor coming out
to 15-16k and thats way to much. Plus i cant deal with the vibrations that
***** would have too this would have to be a daily driver. In addition to that, at my parents house I believe my dad is in the process of swapping a H22 in a 95 civic coupe so that will solve my dohc vtec craving, which is why I want
the subaru to solve my boost craving. And cure me of front wheel drive.

[2K4ex]

Also if I was going to build a car I would love for it to be a Honda if
I had the money. But for budget I would honestly do a 240, and that
is why im hooked to boost. I have a buddy who recently did it for
4500 including the price of the car, motor and installation which isnt
bad. Granted the car is a 91 its fast as balls, at least to me being a
civic driver. I just dont know how about getting a loan to do that. Does
anyone know how to get a loan to build a car?