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This is a discussion on Manual vs Auto within the New Member Hangout forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by t3nchi Thanks for the super fast responses. Well, me and my dad were discussing it and he ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by t3nchi
    Thanks for the super fast responses.

    Well, me and my dad were discussing it and he kept bringing up the point about stop-and-gos ie traffic jams. He brought up a couple other points as well but I can't remember them (I was too busy picturing myself in a rex with stick)

    I think I may have to practice on a junk car. Not quite sure how to go about doing that. Maybe I'll get a friend to teach me in his old prelude. Is it hard to get a hang of manual (to the point where you won't have trouble)

    Its not difficult at all actually, its just frustrating nailing a smooth start. I learned on a 350Z and a WRX, they may not be ideal learning cars but as long as you know what to do it shouldnt be difficult. Its when you start getting over confident and rush things when the stalling begins.

    Get a stick wrx, and take it slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t3nchi
    Thanks for the super fast responses.

    Well, me and my dad were discussing it and he kept bringing up the point about stop-and-gos ie traffic jams. He brought up a couple other points as well but I can't remember them (I was too busy picturing myself in a rex with stick)

    I think I may have to practice on a junk car. Not quite sure how to go about doing that. Maybe I'll get a friend to teach me in his old prelude. Is it hard to get a hang of manual (to the point where you won't have trouble)
    Stop and go traffic really isn't that bad, even though everyone says so. Definately practice on your friend's lude if he'll let you. If you can practice alot, it won't be long until you feel confident. Just remember, everyone stalls, and give it some gas and let the clutch out nice and smooth
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    Tell your dad about better gas mileage, and more control especially in bad weather.

    The best points of all are that it would be alot more funt o drive and i would think it would be a good bit faster. (might not want to mention the last one.)

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    Yea he said something about 'what if u need to make a quick stop in case the car of you stops pretty suddenly, you have to shift all these gears back down etc etc'

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnal_wrx
    Every car's manual transmission is different, so its going to take some time learning how to drive the rex even if you're a perfect driver in the prelude. But give it about a week, maybe two weeks, and you'll have no problems.
    Agreed, no question. People will give you crap for stalling no matter what car you're in, but you're gonna do it. A lot when you're learning, and occasionally even when you've been doing it for years. It sucks, it's embarassing, and can be scary, but you'll be getting better. Just learn something each time you do it, and understand that from car to car, you'll have a different exp. every time.

    Two more points: 1) EVERYONE should be able to drive stick, even if they primarily drive an auto. It's just good to know, 'cause you don't know when you'll be the only sober one at a party, and your buddy's car is a stick.

    2) You enjoy driving more. Period. It's more fun, and you bond more with your car.

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    And in response to your dad's downshifting argument:

    Put the car in neutral and hit the brakes. You don't have to shift down through gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t3nchi
    Yea he said something about 'what if u need to make a quick stop in case the car of you stops pretty suddenly, you have to shift all these gears back down etc etc'

    You do not have to shift gears to brake suddenly.... engine braking is not the only way to stop. Just push the clutch it and hit the brakes, or push the clutch in shift to neutral and brake normally. Do a search on google on how to drive stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t3nchi
    Yea he said something about 'what if u need to make a quick stop in case the car of you stops pretty suddenly, you have to shift all these gears back down etc etc'

    You can stop just as quick in a manual as an auto. Just the push in the clutch and slam inbrake. Then when you come to a stop worry about shifting back down. Use this method for sudden stops only though.

    You can use your gears to slow down for normal driving which will save your brakes some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtuner2006
    You can stop just as quick in a manual as an auto. Just the push in the clutch and slam inbrake. Then when you come to a stop worry about shifting back down. Use this method for sudden stops only though.

    You can use your gears to slow down for normal driving which will save your brakes some.

    Save brakes yes, but wear down clutch also..... last i checked brake pads are cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t3nchi
    Yea he said something about 'what if u need to make a quick stop in case the car of you stops pretty suddenly, you have to shift all these gears back down etc etc'
    Obviously he isn't the master stick driver either
    I wouldn't bother with engine braking unless you're in very inclement weather like very heavy rain or snow accumulation, where traction can be compromised easily when braking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJSHADOW7
    Save brakes yes, but wear down clutch also..... last i checked brake pads are cheaper.

    I don't really know but i heard it is ok to do as lond as you only go down one gear at a time. i know you shoudn't be going 65 then slam it into first (i know it wouldn't really go into first). Like i said your probly right but thats just what i've been told by many people.

    and sorry for a repost earlier DJ7

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtuner2006
    I don't really know but i heard it is ok to do as lond as you only go down one gear at a time. i know you shoudn't be going 65 then slam it into first (i know it wouldn't really go into first). Like i said your probly right but thats just what i've been told by many people.

    and sorry for a repost earlier DJ7

    What repost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJSHADOW7
    You do not have to shift gears to brake suddenly.... engine braking is not the only way to stop. Just push the clutch it and hit the brakes, or push the clutch in shift to neutral and brake normally. Do a search on google on how to drive stick.
    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtuner2006
    You can stop just as quick in a manual as an auto. Just the push in the clutch and slam inbrake. Then when you come to a stop worry about shifting back down. Use this method for sudden stops only though.

    You can use your gears to slow down for normal driving which will save your brakes some.

    That we said like the same thing almost but it took me forever to post that. I didn't know you already had posted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtuner2006
    I don't really know but i heard it is ok to do as lond as you only go down one gear at a time. i know you shoudn't be going 65 then slam it into first (i know it wouldn't really go into first). Like i said your probly right but thats just what i've been told by many people.

    and sorry for a repost earlier DJ7
    Don't worry so much about engine braking, it sounds complicated, but once you get the hang of driving you'll start to understand. You should focus more on the rev range of each gear and the speeds associated. IE: you shouldn't be going 35 in 2nd. But first and foremost, the most important thing is getting the car rolling from a stop (if you have a hard time, I would recommend putting it in 1st and starting with no gas, just let the clutch out as slow as possible. That way you can feel the friction point and what not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtuner2006
    That we said like the same thing almost but it took me forever to post that. I didn't know you already had posted it

    Oh don't worry about it. (i hate when that happens)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOOFAST88
    Don't worry so much about engine braking, it sounds complicated, but once you get the hang of driving you'll start to understand. You should focus more on the rev range of each gear and the speeds associated. IE: you shouldn't be going 35 in 2nd. But first and foremost, the most important thing is getting the car rolling from a stop (if you have a hard time, I would recommend putting it in 1st and starting with no gas, just let the clutch out as slow as possible. That way you can feel the friction point and what not).

    +1 Once you find that sweet spot you will be good to go.

    It is different on every car though.

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