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    It hurts to downshift into 1st gear.

    When I downshift into 1st gear I get this grinding noise, of course I have the clutch in. Only when I let the car slow down to about 10 mph or slower can I downshift smoothly. Is this normal?

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    Yes it is. You should be pretty much stopped before putting it into 1st.

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    btw, good to see some wrx owners in MN

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    i only downshift into 1st when i am at a complete stop....if you try downshift into 1st at a high speed you are forcing your tranny and scynros to make that shift and puttin unneccessary strain on them
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    If you want to shift into 1st at anything over 3-4mph, you'll need to rev the engine a bit to get it smoothly into gear. Heel-n-Toe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRex
    If you want to shift into 1st at anything over 3-4mph, you'll need to rev the engine a bit to get it smoothly into gear. Heel-n-Toe!

    no, heel and toe is braking while rev matching a downshift

    you meant to say double clutching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redline927
    no, heel and toe is braking while rev matching a downshift

    you meant to say double clutching.
    You are probably approcahing a stop and slowing down and braking if your downshifting to 1st from a roll. Thus you would use heel toe to rev match.

    Double clutching is for tractor trailers and Fast and Furious fanbois.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redline927
    no, heel and toe is braking while rev matching a downshift

    you meant to say double clutching.
    No he meant Heel & Toe. You need be below 5mph to engage 1st gear so you would have to brake and rev to match everything up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzman
    Double clutching is for tractor trailers and Fast and Furious fanbois.
    Don't forget almost every race car driver using a gearbox with dog cut gears (no synchros) as the layshaft will need to be spun up as well (rev'd while in neutral). Please don't make comments like this that you obviously have no idea about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fengshui
    Don't forget almost every race car driver using a gearbox with dog cut gears (no synchros) as the layshaft will need to be spun up as well (rev'd while in neutral). Please don't make comments like this that you obviously have no idea about.

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    Not to be a ****, and we have the same name so this is hard.

    but you basically made his point for him. You said that race cars that dont have synchros need to double clutch. he said tractor trailers, they use old gearboxes (im sure some dont now a days), but regular cars do not require double clutching.

    the only reason people now a days talk about DCing is b/c they heard Vin Diesel talk about it in TF&TF
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    I can put it in first easy at 25mph to downshift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam3482p
    I can put it in first easy at 25mph to downshift.
    Without matching revs? You must have magic synchros!
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    Quote Originally Posted by D0WNxSH1FT
    Not to be a ****, and we have the same name so this is hard.

    but you basically made his point for him. You said that race cars that dont have synchros need to double clutch. he said tractor trailers, they use old gearboxes (im sure some dont now a days), but regular cars do not require double clutching.

    the only reason people now a days talk about DCing is b/c they heard Vin Diesel talk about it in TF&TF
    actually, i do it a lot. it's great for downshifting, highway exits, and keeping pasengers heads from bouncing around the cabin whenever you downshift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRex
    Without matching revs? You must have magic synchros!
    I swear they are magic!!!

    Edit: I just went outside and tried it. It goes in easy at 25 downshifting to first. And I tried it once rev matching and put in at 30 no problem. I mean I know its the Ra gearset but damn!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_rex
    actually, i do it a lot. it's great for downshifting, highway exits, and keeping pasengers heads from bouncing around the cabin whenever you downshift.

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    Are you sure you dont mean Heel/Toe rev matching?
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