This is a discussion on The Official 2015 WRX & STi Thread within the New Cars/Prototypes Forums forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by zax Apparently you like guzzling fuel during your commute. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk I ...
Wow...is everyone smoking early today?
All I said was the 30-50 and 50-70 times sucked.
Go ahead and compare the 2015 VW GTI and Focus ST 30-50 and 50-70 times. They're faster than the WRX. Do you get it? It seems slow because it is. I made a comment. Relax.
Edit: link if you want it - http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...imp-wrx-ts.pdf
Look at the top gear ratios:
2015 GTI 0.97
2015 Focus ST 0.94
2008 WRX 0.73
2015 WRX 0.66
The WRX has a 4th gear ratio of .972. You therefore need to drop the WRX into 4th gear to compare with the GTI and ST, and into 5th to get close to the 2008 WRX. I bet you'll find the times to be much closer, if not better on the 2015 WRX. The biggest difference is that the WRX will be composed at higher cruising speeds and not screaming along burning gas at a high rate like the others.
Last edited by Raven Logics; 01-31-2014 at 02:18 PM.
My understanding is that the new 6MT for the WRX is essentially the 5MT with a highway cog (oversimplified, yes, but analogical). This is what Subaru enthusiasts have been requesting for several years.
This is Subaru's answer to the poor fuel economy typically delivered by a turbo-4 cylinder on the highway... especially a turbo-4 mated to AWD. Has Subaru disclosed the top gear revs at 60 mph yet? IIRC, the prior generation WRX and STI were close to 2400 RPM. If the new cog is significantly over-driven, I'd be concerned with a potential turbo upgrade as this may move the torque curve too far to the right to use the 6th gear in anything under 80mph...
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^ accelerating from 50 to 70 in 6th is just plain dumb and indicates nothing about performance. With a big displacement V8, fine, otherwise utterly useless. A real overdrive 6th is for cruising only, uphill on the interstate you'd still shift down just to make it....
You can't have everything - where would you put it?
I got the new car and driver magazine today. The article they wrote was pretty good. They were consistently able to get 4.8 0-60 with the 6 speed. They seemed to like it over all.
The figure itself can be useful - although it tells you little about direct performance, it still gives an insight into other driving aspects of the car. Yeah, I don't quite believe myself there either.
I'm simply comparing times from competitive cars. The WRX is significantly slower. It really is that simple. It disappoints me so get over it and move on. I'm also curious what those same numbers are with the CVT. I know the NON-turbo 2.5i forester is 30-50 4.4 sec. and 50-70 5.8 sec. Granted the tuning is slightly different with the Forester XT / CVT combo than in the WRX...even the std. 4-banger is much faster in those acceleration times. This is why I feel justified in my complaint. I don't care about gear ratios and 'laziness' and V8 engines.