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    In my view there is no reason to not consider Honda the best motor maker in the world; they have been so since the mid 90s or so.

    Others have had significant motors but have either failed to hold onto them (witness the fall of the BMW straight six), failed to make good on promises or answered questions nobody is asking (example, FIAT's FIRE was a brilliant concept with no real world results to show for it), and so on, but nobody has had excellence across the range the same way Honda have managed (and yes I'm aware of porous aluminium castings in the 3,5L V6... happens to the best I suppose...).

    Ford are commendable in that they have become progressive in their thinking across two continents. The Focus is among the most advanced cars in the world, and is probably the first time their "world car" concept actually works (the Escort was a fiasco in US guise). If they cancel the Mustang their range will be truly 21st century; they are unlikely to do this because to the US Ford guys the Mustang is iconic, but that's OK. More power to them.
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    SD you are arrogant and ignorant. That post had very little fanboism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicWagon View Post
    SD you are arrogant and ignorant. That post had very little fanboism.


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    SD you are arrogant and ignorant."
    You're not joking, I am... I have to admit. The only thing that's gotten me this far despite my attitude is my good looks.
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    The only thing that's gotten me this far despite my attitude is my good looks.
    And how far have those gotten you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drews View Post
    And how far have those gotten you?
    Did you watch the Academy Awards this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drews View Post
    You're very narrow minded if you think Hondas are over priced and under deliver on performance. It's not like the S2k set any records or anything. :rollseyes: If you want a true sports car, go buy a true sports car. I'm well aware that electrical problems don't come from beating on cars, this isn't exactly my first car.
    Just can't see the value in a Honda, my opinion, some might say the same about subaru or any other manufacturer. You stated the fact I was beating on my vehicles not knowing me. Does that make you narrow minded? S2k had their share of problems as well as performance. I was simply pointing out the fact that Ford made some mistakes with the svt. It was definitely a fun car with good styling. I really don't like the looks of the dart, but if the srt version is similar to there other models, may be worth looking into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostlystock View Post
    Just can't see the value in a Honda, my opinion, some might say the same about subaru or any other manufacturer. You stated the fact I was beating on my vehicles not knowing me. Does that make you narrow minded? S2k had their share of problems as well as performance. I was simply pointing out the fact that Ford made some mistakes with the svt. It was definitely a fun car with good styling. I really don't like the looks of the dart, but if the srt version is similar to there other models, may be worth looking into.
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    So I still want an SVT Focus....
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    [QUOTE=SD_GR;2899565]In my view there is no reason to not consider Honda the best motor maker in the world; they have been so since the mid 90s or so.

    I do have to agree on this, my lawnmower runs like a champ.

    If you get an SVT Focus just make sure the clutch has been upgraded, to the 11.4 or so otherwise you will be in for a clutch and flywheel change, which is expensive The cars can be had realitively cheap now......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostlystock View Post
    I do have to agree on this, my lawnmower runs like a champ.
    Was your lawn mower overpriced and does it under perform? Because that statement is very contradictory to your other posts in this thread.
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