The BIG BRZ Bickering Brief!

**rotarymania** · 04-21-2011 01:00 PM

Awesome Scion FR-S coverage:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1163

Gotta be over 100+ photos and videos there so enjoy.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually a fan of this Scion. I've hated all Scion cars and the brand's image up until now, but this could definitely change my mind *possibly*. That's if it comes with the performance to back up that exotics look.

Now, will they be calling the car the Toyota FR-S in other markets where there is no Scion?

**SD_GR** · 04-21-2011 02:12 PM

The nose will hopefully be corrected before (potential?) production. It does look interesting.
New York 2011: Scion FR-S Concept is "friggin' really sweet"

**Stu_Gotti** · 04-21-2011 02:12 PM

Said it before, say it again... sick!

**LoneStar** · 05-05-2011 04:22 PM

Great looking car!

**Cabrez99** · 05-13-2011 07:34 PM

The FT-86 body style is sick in its own way, but it looks a lot like the Subaru STI coupe version. From what I read in the Motor Trend Mag is that the 2012 Subaru STI coupe will be eliminating the AWD for RWD. Now by eliminating the AWD it takes away what Subarus are known for, just like the way they killed the soul of the Skyline but taking away the orginal tail lights and the heart of the car (In-line 6) for a V-6.

just my 0.02 cents.

**SD_GR** · 05-13-2011 08:32 PM

The "AWD" thing is very recent for Subaru and they have not, despite all that they say, adopted it for their entire fleet. They still sold FWD cars all this time, for example. The same goes for the boxer motor -- they have not adopted it for their entire fleet despite what they would like to have everyone think at times. I think it's marketing born from necessity for them.

An RWD coupe with the Toyota 1.8L motor would be at the very least interesting. Even (despite?) a Subaru non-turbo 2.0L would be interesting. I'm warming up to the idea.

Major drawbacks:

The nose needs correction.
The wheels are appalling.
Using an 86 in the name will draw all the wrong crowd and could even doom the car to fanboy/fad status.
The front is busy, even ignoring the nose itself. Simplify. It will age better that way.

***Weasel 555*** · 05-16-2011 11:04 AM

Spy Shots: Scion FR-S caught prepping for 'Ring runs

(sure look like the STi enkei wheels on there !)

We've been waiting, rather patiently we might add, for Toyota to bring out its latest sports car for what seems like millenniums. This new coupe will be wearing a Scion badge and go by the name FR-S, which stands for "front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sport." It's the "R" and "S" that has enthusiasts eager to lay eyes on this Scion in the flesh. A concept version was trotted out at the 2011 New York Auto Show, but spy photographers managed to capture a camo-covered development mule adding "Germany" to the stamps in its passport book.

Read More/ Pics: autoblog.com/2011/05/16/spy-shots-scion-fr-s-caught

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**rotarymania** · 05-18-2011 05:12 AM

Not bad looking at all IMHO. Now let's hope it's got the performance to boot.

Full Pics Set - Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Shows Aggressive Body & High Wing! Possibly Subaru Version? - Scion FR-S Forum | Toyota FT-S Forum | Subaru 216a Forum | ft86club

***Weasel 555*** · 05-18-2011 07:36 AM

yeah not bad was jst checking it out on autoblog

autoblog.com/2011/05/18/scion-fr-s-sprouts-a-wing-at-the-ring/

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**oguitar** · 05-18-2011 09:51 AM

The front end looks mighty mean. I hope Subaru turbocharges their version. Then it will be a nice little car.

**brfatal** · 05-18-2011 10:10 AM

Nice STI Enkeis.

Unabomber's assessment on NASIOC is where I stand on this.

**SD_GR** · 05-18-2011 11:28 AM

Will the wing interchange directly with authentic Hyundai Tiburon parts?

**GarrettKoonsman** · 05-18-2011 11:33 AM

I like the smaller wing version much much better (on the link, lower pics). If Subaru made a similar version to that with AWD and a turbo (maybe 16g size or even VF series) I would consider that as my next subaru in a couple years over an STI

**SD_GR** · 05-18-2011 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by GarrettKoonsman

I like the smaller wing version much much better

The big wing is my main objection at this point. They seem to have corrected the nose I think, or the camo covers the problems in any case. I wouldn't wait too long for big turbo versions -- I don't think they're necessary and it's unlikely IMO we'll see them even if they were.