This is a discussion on The BIG BRZ Bickering Brief! within the New Cars/Prototypes Forums forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by Mikie13 Wow look at the pedal placement...you're like kicking the pedals, not pressing them Yeah, lots of ...
The last car I can name with bottom hinged pedals is I guess the Beetle, that was made until I think 2002 or maybe 2003. So that'd be a North-American Superbeetle.
Yep, the beetle-derived pedal cluster that I bought for the buggy is floor-hinged. I never had a problem with it in my 2 beetles.
Gorgeous Europa. Gotta love Lotus for doing their own thing...
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I got curious and looked up which car with bottom pivot pedals is more recent, the VW Beetle or the Ferrari Enzo Ferrari.
I can't tell. The VW Beetle was made from... 1938 until 30.07.2003.
The Ferrari Enzo Ferrari was listed as a 2003 model, but there seems to be a chassis designated as a 2004 model and given to... the Pope.
For both the VW and the Ferrari, I couldn't make this stuff up! Anyway, it seems the Ferrari is more recent if we count the Vatican 2004 car. However, the VW is a better and more significant car. Take your pick.
Now, if FIATs later than the Enzo Ferrari also use down-pivoted pedals, I don't know. This could be FIAT-wide in the touring and sporting cars (Maserati, Ferrari etc.). If so, FIAT wins.
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The Zonda looks really hard to heel-toe shift.
In college, I designed a pedal system for our SAE car. It was floor-hinged because the driver sat in a more reclined position (like an F1 car), and that was much more ergonomic and easier to package chassis-wise. for more upright seating positions like big trucks, I'd argue top hinge setups are more ergonomic.
I used Catia which has built-in modeling tools for ergonomics. You can design a human analog based off of percentiles, plop it into the vehicle model, then test things like range of motion, reach angles, what percentage legs are extended, etc. It's pretty cool stuff. I designed most of the ****pit with this model, including a home-brew suspension seat that was like a sort of hammock supported by the chassis members. I sewed it myself out of ballistic nylon and seat belt webbing. (Real men use sewing machines!) It did a great job absorbing the shock to the driver of jumping off a 5' kicker.
I watched Back to The Future last night and had a flash of inspiration:
I could see picking up a rear-ended BRZ and chopping into into a 2015 Delorean, complete with real gullwing doors (maybe even red steelies with whitewalls, lol). Not that any of this will actually happen, but it was an amusing thought experiment...
I really really want to go to Japan.
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I drove a Legacy wagon on some of the coastal backroads outside of Nagasaki, and yeah, they really are that good.
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Ooh,hang on. That is the throb of a turbocharged flat four engine. A sound which,all over the world,heralds the imminent arrival of a moron - JC.
Im going to try and calm myself when it comes to this car. It's just a car right? People do have different tastes, that's for sure and I wouldn't want it any other way honestly.
Tastes do differ. May all our problems only amount to this issue in life, that'd be great.
I've owned two different cars with less power than my Impreza, RWD, and no rear seat. I've done so at two different times. The first time, I initially did not own a couch. The second time I did not own a bed. I picked owning two slower impractical cars simultaneously instead.
Then again I've also eaten spaghetti every day endlessly to buy a wristwatch. I don't really care what time it is any more than I care to have more power from a car at this point. It's all (misplaced?) priorities...