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This is a discussion on The BIG BRZ Bickering Brief! within the New Cars/Prototypes Forums forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by SD_GR The big wing is my main objection at this point. They seem to have corrected the ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    The big wing is my main objection at this point. They seem to have corrected the nose I think, or the camo covers the problems in any case. I wouldn't wait too long for big turbo versions -- I don't think they're necessary and it's unlikely IMO we'll see them even if they were.
    I dont really expect it but if they did decide to go that route it would be awesome. Subaru needs something to take it to the next level away from the family car that can go anywhere and EVO competition and I have this out there thought of a Turbo V6 in one of those lightweight, modern, good looking cars. IIRC they were talking mid to high 20k range for the Scion/Toyota. Charge 35-40K for that car with a Subaru badge, AWD, a V6 and a decent sized turbo. They would be competing with cars that cost 3-4x that. I agree with it being unnecessary but lets face it, WRX's and STI's are unnecessary. 911 Turbo's, M3's, every Ferrari, Lambo etc are unnecessary on the road but thats what everyone loves. Not trying to say this is the next 911 but in all honesty unnecessary is what most of us here own and love.
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    Video: Scion FR-S caught on its working vacation in Germany

    We have the Scion FR-S on the brain, and it's not going away anytime soon thanks to the onslaught of new spy photos that keep rolling in. This time, however, we've got video instead of still photography courtesy of our friends at FT86club.com.

    It's always great to see a car in motion, and besides, now we have an idea of what the Scion sports car's exhaust note might sound like.

    We've been having some fun at Autoblog HQ debating exactly what's going on under all of that swirly camouflage. Some think we may, in fact, be looking at the Subaru version of the Toyota/Subie joint venture – that wing and those wheels say STI to us. However, others point out that the wing could easily be a shout-out to the Supras of yore. Regardless, we all like what we see and can't wait until someone pulls the wraps off this thing.

    Video click: autoblog.com/2011/05/20/scion-fr-s-caught-on-its-working-vacation-in-germany/



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    Spy Shots: Toyobaru spotted on the 405?



    These shots appear to be of the Subaru version of the planned, talked-about, redesigned, and talked-about-some-more 2013 Scion FR-S/Toyota FT-86/Toyobaru. According to our reader spy, this version was wearing Subaru distributor plates, pretty much giving away its true identity.

    While the heavy camo does a great job obscuring the a good look at the car, and the shots are taken from a distance, it looks like the Subaru coupe will sport slightly more understated lines than its stablemate at Scion.

    Click: autoblog.com/2011/05/21/toyobaru-spotted-on-the-405/


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    Exclamation Subaru Announces New RWD Sports Car "Subaru BRZ" (equivalent of FT-86 / FR-S)

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    One piece of info our community has long been awaiting has just been announced.

    Subaru has issued a press release [full transcript inside] announcing the Subaru BRZ name for its concept version of the rear-drive sports coupe that it is co-developing with Toyota.

    While Toyota has already shown three concept versions of the FT-86 and Scion FR-S, Subaru has so far only shown a skeletal/powertrain/drivetrain concept (the Boxer Sports Car Architecture Concept). That should change as Subaru will be revealing its BRZ “technology concept” car at next month’s Frankfurt IAA auto show.

    See INSIDE for more details and link to the Subaru BRZ teaser site.
    Exciting to see new RWD sports cars coming out of Japan soon!

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    Dang it I can't tell if it is turbocharged.
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    It isn't going to be turbo charged. I really don't see 200 hp to the crank much to be happy about. As I've said in other threads on other boards. 200 crank hp was cool back in the early 2000's

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    Is this thing supposed to "replace" the WRX, or is it "in addition to"?
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    Not currently at least. I don't believe the fate of the wrx and sti have been decided yet. Anyone that says otherwise it really just guessing. Don't think Subaru has announced anything on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.0Rs View Post
    It isn't going to be turbo charged. I really don't see 200 hp to the crank much to be happy about. As I've said in other threads on other boards. 200 crank hp was cool back in the early 2000's
    HP isn't always what people are looking for in a sports car, most people looking for a small sports care are looking for quick handling rather than straight line speed. Take the Miata for instance, the 'speed MX5 didn't even produce 200 BHP, but it's still very nimble and quick. The S2000 made 230 BHP, and 175 lb/ft torque (thanks to a VERY high revving engine) and was quite popular, even with it's rather high price tag. 200 HP in that small of a car will be just fine, but Subaru needs to make sure it handles well.

    If Subaru can balance the power and handling properly and keep the price down to affordable, and justifiable, levels I think the car will do quite well.
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    I have no problem with a non turbo car. I have owned three mid engined sports cars and two front engined touring cars and an HP number won't be what makes me sign a cheque.
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    Mixed feelings for me about 4-banger NA cars at this point. Intellectually, I agree with what's been said; it's nice to have the responsiveness and simplicity of a nonturbo car, and horsepower certainly isn't everything. It's got to handle..

    OTOH, when I actually get behind the wheel of a car with no forced induction, even one with decent hp numbers, I find myself waiting for something to happen.
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