The dizzle and loulegz thread - Page 197

This is a discussion on The dizzle and loulegz thread within the Mountain States forums, part of the Regional Discussion category; Originally Posted by 06hawkman thanks gilly! coming from you that is a good compliment. lou i think he has both. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06hawkman View Post
    thanks gilly! coming from you that is a good compliment. lou i think he has both. at this altitude we will not need injectors we cant push them enough
    Reading around a little bit... it looks like the VF34 and VF39 are similar... the VF34 is a little bit bigger and spools a little bit quicker... hmmm... maybe VF34 would be a better choice...
    Decisions, decisions....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXLoulegzXx View Post
    +1
    I am about 99% set on this turbo
    ya pretty sure it is the one i want eventually. but the vf34 full spool is about 3200rpm were the vf39 is about 3500. which would be nice but havent seen a ots map for it unless the vf39 map works. but i wouldnt think it would.

    on that exhaust not planning on getting it just wondering why it was so cheap. unless it works fine i guess, but planning on trying to find a invidia DP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXLoulegzXx View Post
    Reading around a little bit... it looks like the VF34 and VF39 are similar... the VF34 is a little bit bigger and spools a little bit quicker... hmmm... maybe VF34 would be a better choice...
    Decisions, decisions....
    they are essentially the same turbo except the vf34 has a ball bearing cartridge and the 39 has a journal bearing thus allowing the 34 to spool quicker. they basically will have the same hp numbers though. if you can get it from him on the cheap i would do the 34, i was lookin for one forever then i bought the 39 and two days later he tells me he has this..........damn
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    ball bearing is the way to go.. especially if you can get a good deal on one... my switch from journal to ball made my heart smile

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    what would be good to upgrade in the tranny to go with the vf39. i know it is pushing it with that power and stock wrx tranny.

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    mfactory is what im lookin at. look up mfactory ds1. it is a closer ratio but seems to be very promising and half the price of ppg's
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    Hokay, so this is probably a dumb question.. but what is the huge difference between ball bearing and journal bearing??
    I am a n00b with turbo's

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    Quote Originally Posted by treq18 View Post
    what would be good to upgrade in the tranny to go with the vf39. i know it is pushing it with that power and stock wrx tranny.
    you should actually be fine as long as you dont drive like an asshat... but maybe a stage one clutch eventually

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06hawkman View Post
    mfactory is what im lookin at. look up mfactory ds1. it is a closer ratio but seems to be very promising and half the price of ppg's
    STi RA gear set is nice too

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    Ball Bearing vs. Journal Bearing
    The journal bearing has long been the brawn of the turbocharger, however a ball bearing cartridge is now an affordable technology advancement that provides significant performance improvements to the turbocharger. Ball bearing innovation began as a result to work with the Garrett Motor Sports group of several racing series where it received the term the 'cartridge ball bearing'. The cartridge is a single sleeve system that contains a set of angular contact ball bearings on either end, whereas the traditional bearing system contained a set of journal bearings and a thrust bearing.

    Turbo Response - When driving a vehicle with the cartridge ball bearing turbocharger, you will find exceptionally crisp and strong throttle response. Garrett Ball Bearing turbochargers spool up 15% faster than traditional journal bearings. This produces an improved response that can be converted to quicker 0-60 mph speed. In fact, some professional drivers using Garrett ball bearing turbocharged systems claim that they feel like they are driving a big, normally aspirated engine.

    Reduced Oil Flow - The ball bearing design reduces the required amount of oil to provide adequate lubrication. This lower oil volume reduces the chance for seal leakage. Also, the ball bearing is more tolerant of marginal lube conditions, and diminishes the possibility of turbocharger failure on engine shut down.

    Improved Rotor Dynamics and Durability - The ball bearing cartridge gives better damping and control over shaft motion, allowing enhanced reliability of both everyday and extreme conditions. In addition, the opposed angular contact bearing cartridge eliminates the need for the thrust bearing, commonly a weak link in the turbo bearing system.

    Additional Ball Bearing Options - Another option one will find is a hybrid ball bearing. This consists of replacing only the compressor side journal bearing with a single angular contact ball bearing. Since the single ball bearing can only take the thrust in one direction, a thrust bearing is still necessary and drag in the turbine side journal bearing is unchanged. With the Garrett ball bearing cartridge the rotor-group is entirely supported by the ball bearings, maximizing efficiency, performance, and durability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilly monster View Post
    sti ra gear set is nice too
    dont we need a sti box though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly Monster View Post
    you should actually be fine as long as you dont drive like an asshat... but maybe a stage one clutch eventually
    i would just want everything to be soild so i wouldnt have to worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06hawkman View Post
    dont we need a sti box though?
    nope its just a replacement gear set will fit the standard wrx 5mt its what i have in mine

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    Thanks for the info Tony..
    I'm thinking VF34

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    gilly how much for the ra's? lou, do it you wont be sorry, but then if you win a race i will have to buy something bigger we should seriously always mob around town together, the twin hawks causin trouble gettin starbucks and olive garden! jeah
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