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    Evolution Performance Driving School

    So I've been wanting auto-x all summer and just haven't had the chance. so i was tooling around the New York SCCA website and came across this.
    http://autocross.com/evolution/modules/news/

    they will be in my area in August and I'm considering doing it. Have you guys had any experience with the driving school? Any thoughts? Thought I'd run it past you guys before i paypal 245 bucks

    Thanks in advance.
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    I have done the Phase 1 course. I got a lot out of it, you basically take 30 or so runs through the same course, either solo, or with an instructor, or with an instructor driving your vehicle. In the different parts of the course they focus on different things, depending on your strenghts, weaknesses etc. Whether it's worth the big money is questionable. If you don't have test and tune days, or instructors with your local club, it's definitely worth it. The seat time alone will help. Any other questions you have I'd be glad to answer the best I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silvewrx View Post
    I have done the Phase 1 course. I got a lot out of it, you basically take 30 or so runs through the same course, either solo, or with an instructor, or with an instructor driving your vehicle. In the different parts of the course they focus on different things, depending on your strenghts, weaknesses etc. Whether it's worth the big money is questionable. If you don't have test and tune days, or instructors with your local club, it's definitely worth it. The seat time alone will help. Any other questions you have I'd be glad to answer the best I can.
    thanks for your input. How long is the phase 1 course? On the website it just says "a day long course".

    I'm seriously considering doing it. I don't know the first thing about auto-x and I think this may be a good starting point. Everyone says the best mod is the driver mod...so instead of buying camber plates or a front swaybar. I think I may do this first.
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    The course was from ~7:30am until 4:30 or so. The events went as follows- to the best of my recollection.

    1st
    Run 3 runs solo as a baseline for the day.
    2nd
    Instructor rides along for 1 run, then drives your car for 2nd run, then rides with you again for 3rd run, then you run 3 more solo while the instructor watches.
    Then we broke for lunch and discussed what we went over so far.
    The above sections you will focus on different things depenending on level of skill, weaknesses, etc. Most people need to work on slowing down, braking, and steering inputs.
    After lunch the instructor drove one person's car with 3 passengers, while pointing out landmarks, where you should be looking.
    3rd session
    Instructor rode while coaching on where to look when, looking ahead, and what you focused on before. Then you had like 5 runs to put together looking ahead and what you learned in the morning. The rest of the day is hazy but it's mostly repeated runs, some solo or with a passenger.
    All in all you will make about 30 runs. My experience- In a typical course (5-7 runs) at about 60 seconds, I will lose about 2-3 seconds throughout the day from my 1st to best runs. This day my baseline was 33.074 (99 Civic, most of the stis were running 32-34, not much faster), at the end I was running 30.070-30.14 consistently. I recommend taking notes, as you will remeber everthing better. I even glance at my notes from that day before runs now.

    If you have never been to an auto-x, I would suggest attending one before taking the course, as most clubs have instructors to ride with you, and you'll get the basics down so you can focus on more advanced things. The phase 1 is good for someone who has less than a season of experience, but at least 1 event.
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    I really appreceate your input. Thanks alot!

    I'll be looking at the schedule to see if there are any events around my area before the class meets.
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    The clubs I can think of in your area are
    http://www.wscc.org/ -Westchester
    http://www.autox4u.com/ -Philly
    http://www.psccny.com/ - Poughkeepsie
    http://www.ner.org/ - New England Region SCCA
    http://www.nyr-scca.com/ - NY region Scca
    http://www.cartct.com/index1.shtml - CART-CT Auto-X And Rally
    http://fcscc.com/ - Fairfield Co Sports Car Club

    I personally have run with CART, FCSCC, and NER; all of which I would recommend from experience.
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    I'd highly recommend the Evolution courses- the instructors are usually top notch (many multi Nat'l champs), as posted above you gets lots of seat time and you will shave second(s) off of your baseline runs

    they have a test/tune one I'd really like to attend some time- base runs and then you get to "play" w/ tire pressures/sway settings/damping etc and re-run, change and re-run again, etc
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