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Reply With QuoteStock WRXs have run high 13s as well... i think the lowest was like a 13.6 or 13.7 don't recall. but you know the wrx is modded at least a little, even if it is just tbe then he should be running low 13s stage 2Originally Posted by mazdaspeed6
This is a discussion on 2006 mazdaspeed6 vs. subie wrx.... within the Motorsports Talk forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by mazdaspeed6 well the purpose of me asking about this is to see what it would take for ...
Well, it's like this. If someone is stock - it should be pretty close. But the WRX is not likely to be stock. No shortage of aftermarket parts, and no shortage of used parts. The WRX and EVO have an aftermarket reminiscent of the Camaro and Mustang back in the 90's. That is to say you can find a ton of parts new/used/expensive/cheap that will allow you to easily increase the cars whp/wtq in excess of 40% over stock. Couple this with the fact that the stock ECU is easy to reflash, no messing with piggybacks, and there are many off the shelf maps which have been proven by countless people.
The Mazdaspeed6 has potential, but has yet to be proven. The WRX has proven itself year after year. That's not to say it's without fault - there are issues that plague us as well, namely transmission failure (though honestly this only seems to manifest as defect/abuse). The MS6 needs glowing reviews and consistant sales numbers to attract 3rd party support. Only time will tell.
Torch Red 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 46k mi.
Black 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 6-speed 94k mi. my mod list
10/08/2006 - 14.089@103.01 (5-speed with well worn clutch, no launch)
"Six stars gleaming, five speeds breaking, four tires chirping, three differentials working, two liters screaming, one turbo boosting... it's what makes a Subaru all-wheel-drive, all we'll drive."
for Bugeye owners my BOV thread Service Manuals
Stock WRXs have run high 13s as well... i think the lowest was like a 13.6 or 13.7 don't recall. but you know the wrx is modded at least a little, even if it is just tbe then he should be running low 13s stage 2
2004 VW GLI "Back In Boost"
well...IMO, or IMI (In My Imagination) WRX's/STi's are still better that Evo's...hands down...despise the facts.........
HMMM interesting. I thought that the wrx not the STI was running about a 14.4-14.0. So you are saying that the STOCK wrx can run on average a 13.9-13.6?? If so then if that is the case then even with a bad driver i will lose, Interesting.
I was looking at you list of mods and also you qtr. mile and you only ran a 14.0. I also read something about launching ability.I am not sure if that was a long time ago or what and if it was then i appologize. But if you have all that stuff and even a vf34 turbo and that is all you got in the qtr.it makes me think. But i also understand that the time might have be due to the launch itself as you have a nice MPH.
I can't launch the car, some of my friends and family think it's the clutch. So - today I'm getting the clutch replaced with an Exedy Organic Stage 1. I should be able to put my car in the 12's. At least that is what a few of my friends who run their cars at Englishtown/Atco have said after being in the car. Every person who has driven it keeps telling me I need a new clutch. It's annoying, because the car drives fine as a daily driver - it just slips a bit if I try to get on it. Because of this, I've tried to always revmatch. 70k on the stock clutch, so I'm figuring it's probably about due to be replaced soon.
Wish me luck with the new clutch.
Torch Red 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 46k mi.
Black 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 6-speed 94k mi. my mod list
10/08/2006 - 14.089@103.01 (5-speed with well worn clutch, no launch)
"Six stars gleaming, five speeds breaking, four tires chirping, three differentials working, two liters screaming, one turbo boosting... it's what makes a Subaru all-wheel-drive, all we'll drive."
for Bugeye owners my BOV thread Service Manuals
Cool good luck!!
Good luck! when are you heading back to the track? you going to do a break in first?
2004 VW GLI "Back In Boost
well...IMO, or IMI (In My Imagination) WRX's/STi's are still better that Evo's...hands down...despise the facts......
Stock 06 wrxs can run anywhere from 13.6 up depends on the driver though. My friende has a GST that has 330fwhp and he ran a 14.5the car was more then capable for low 13's high 12's but it was his first time running at the track and he over revved teh FWD. There is always a chance you would win especailly since you have track time in, another friend of mine has a 02 mustang gt I/H/E/cams/Manifolds and ran a 14.7
My friends need to learn how to launch
2004 VW GLI "Back In Boost
well...IMO, or IMI (In My Imagination) WRX's/STi's are still better that Evo's...hands down...despise the facts......
I put 250 miles on it yesterday - drove up to Woodbridge, then down to Wildwood. Hopped off the parkway in both spots and a few in between. New clutch is nice, there wasn't much left on the stock clutch. I'm not sure when I'm headed to the track - I'll post a thread when I do.
Torch Red 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 46k mi.
Black 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 6-speed 94k mi. my mod list
10/08/2006 - 14.089@103.01 (5-speed with well worn clutch, no launch)
"Six stars gleaming, five speeds breaking, four tires chirping, three differentials working, two liters screaming, one turbo boosting... it's what makes a Subaru all-wheel-drive, all we'll drive."
for Bugeye owners my BOV thread Service Manuals
As a previous owner of a WRX, Forester 2.5XT and now a mazdaspeed6 I have fairly good knowledge of the cars. The forester is only mentioned to bring up the point of the difference between year models and engines. I opwned a 2002 wrx and it was modded with all the basic bolt-ons and trapped 99- 100 mph. My forester had the same mods and it was a beast off the line with the gearing and 2.5 liter. If the wrx you are speaking of is a new one, they are more powerful stock. A front mount on a WRX without a tune is not as noticeable as a Speed6 with FMIC.
BTW- I would hold off on turning up the boost until you use one of ECU upgrades out there (Xede)
thought i would clarify on this WRX's have a symmetrical AWD system, meaning AWD all the time. the mazdaspeed6 is FWD with AWD as an after thought, meaning your front wheels have to lose traction before the rear wheels kick in.
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2004 WRX STi (WR Blue)
Organic Racing Clutch
Turboback Exhaust + Up-Pipe
Stage 2 Ecu Reflash @ 18 psi
Suby AWD > *
Blobeye Syndicate #2004
Military Militia #30-06
2004 WRX - JBP:Stage 2:13.93 @ 96
Wingless alas. Too bad it took a 50 ton truck to make it happen.
a good front mount is usually more expensive than the turbo. A good front mount is $1000 +. most likely used turbos (16g-18g) can be bought for under $1000.
Well nobody cares what you think, Seth
there are a few owners on here with stock STI's that have run 12.8-12.9 area.
Well nobody cares what you think, Seth
Good luck with the new clutch!
82k on my stock clutch with about 60k or so at stage 2. I am also wondering how soon this will start on mine. so far no slipping or anything, but i imagine around the time i have the timing belt/water pump work done, i might just go ahead and upgrade to a new clutch as well. cheaper to drive it to the dealership rather than have it towed.
Well nobody cares what you think, Seth
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