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    Gentlemen, Start Your Engines: Lotus, Williams confirm drivers for 2011

    With the 2010 World Championship consigned to the history books, the Formula One grid is gearing up for next season. Sixteen out of twenty-four seats have already been spoken for as Lotus and Williams have each confirmed both their drivers.

    After Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes confirmed that their duos will carry on for 2011, Lotus has followed suit in announcing that both Jarno Trulli and Heikki Kovalainen will be retained for next season as well.

    Taking Nico Hulkenberg's seat at Williams, meanwhile, will be GP2 champion Pastor Maldonado, driving alongside Rubens Barrichello for an all-South American line-up. Hulkenberg remains optimistic that he'll be on the grid next season, but only Force India, Toro Rosso and Hispania have yet to confirm either of their drivers and both Renault and Virgin still have a seat each up for grabs, leaving his possibilities rapidly constricting.

    With most teams carrying over their drivers, one exception is Sauber, which will keep Kamui Kobayashi on board, but after replacing Pedro de la Rosa with Nick Heidfeld, have replaced both with GP2 runner-up Sergio Perez for next season.

    2011 Formula One World Championship

    Red Bull-Renault
    Sebastian Vettel
    Mark Webber
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

    McLaren-Mercedes
    Lewis Hamilton
    Jenson Button
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

    Ferrari
    Fernando Alonso
    Felipe Massa
    Reserve/Test Driver: Jules Bianchi

    Mercedes GP
    Michael Schumacher
    Nico Rosberg
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

    Renault
    Robert Kubica
    TBA
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

    Williams-Cosworth
    Rubens Barrichello
    Pastor Maldonado
    Reserve/Test Driver: Valtteri Bottas

    Force India-Mercedes
    TBA
    TBA
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

    Sauber-Ferrari
    Kamui Kobayashi
    Sergio Pérez
    Reserve/Test Driver: Esteban Gutiérrez

    Toro Rosso-Ferrari
    TBA
    TBA
    Reserve/Test Driver: Daniel Ricciardo

    Lotus-Renault
    Jarno Trulli
    Heikki Kovalainen
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

    Hispania-Cosworth
    TBA
    TBA
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

    Virgin-Cosworth
    Timo Glock
    TBA
    Reserve/Test Driver: TBA

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    1. Bahrain BIC March 11-13
    2. Australian Albert Park March 25-27
    3. Malaysian Sepang April 8-10
    4. Chinese Shanghai April 15-17
    5. Turkish Istanbul May 6-8
    6. Spanish Catalunya May 20-22
    7. Monaco Monaco May 26-29
    8. Canadian Gilles Villeneuve June 10-12
    9. European Spain June 24-26
    10. British Silverstone July 8-10
    11. German Nürburgring July 22-24
    12. Hungarian Hungaroring July 29-31
    13. Belgian Spa August 26-28
    14. Italian Monza September 9-11
    15. Singapore Singapore September 23-25
    16. Japanese Suzuka October 7-9
    17. Korean KIC October 14-16
    18. Indian Noida October 28-30
    19. Brazilian Interlagos November 11-13
    20. Abu Dhabi Yas Marina November 25-27

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    Mark Webber reveals he secretly raced with a broken shoulder

    If we had one bit of advice for Mark Webber, it would be to stay the heck off of mountain bikes and stick to winning grand prix races. The Australian Formula One driver, as you may recall, suffered a broken leg and shoulder when he crashed his bike in Tasmania late in 2008. The injury almost forced him out of the 2009 season, but he recovered in time for the start of the championship at his home race in Australia and went on to finish fourth in the standings – his best result up to that point in his career. You'd figure the close call might keep him from jeopardizing his career again, but you'd be wrong.

    The Aussie contender just released his book, Mark Webber Up Front in which he revealed a second mountain bike accident earlier this year, the first time he got back on two wheels since the previous crash. According to Webber's account, he fractured his shoulder again after colliding with a friend while cycling offroad around the time of the Japanese Grand Prix. By the start of the race, the fracture had yet to recover, so he kept it secret from the public and from his team, took an injection and raced the grueling Suzuka track with the injury. If you picture how much an F1 driver gets tossed around the cabin and how much he has to turn that wheel, often against extreme G-forces, you'll have some idea of how excruciating the pain must have been.

    Webber went on to qualify on pole and finish the race in second place – a remarkable result even without taking the injury into account, even more so considering the pain he must have been enduring. Given the revelation, though, we can't help but wonder if more harm was caused to the trust between the racer and his team than was inflicted on his shoulder in the first place.

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    Team orders y'all!

    The FIA has confirmed several key rule changes for 2011 and beyond including the lifting of the ban on team orders during the final meeting of the World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) in Monaco.

    Team orders were originally banned following Ferrari's manipulation of the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix but the issue again reared its head in this year's German Grand Prix when Ferrari ordered Felipe Massa to surrender the lead to team-mate Fernando Alonso, sparking furious debate.

    "The article forbidding team orders (39.1) is deleted. Teams will be reminded that any actions liable to bring the sport into disrepute are dealt with under Article 151c of the International Sporting Code and any other relevant provisions," read the FIA statement.

    Along with a return to team orders, the FIA also rubber-stamped the introduction of adjustable rear wings for overtaking and the return of energy-recovery KERS systems.

    The rear wings will be 'switched on' when a car is within a second of his adversary and then triggered by the driver.

    Also agreed upon was "a better definition of the reference plane, and reinforcement of bodywork deflection tests, especially at the front of the reference plane" to avoid any repeat of the controversy surrounding the flexibility of Red Bull Racing and Ferrari's front wings.

    Looking further afield, the radical new 1.6 litre, four-cylinder engine for 2013, featuring fuel restrictions and the doubling of KERS power was ratified.

    "Following dialogue with the engine manufacturers and experts in this field, the power units will be four cylinders, 1.6 litre with high pressure gasoline injection up to 500 bar with a maximum of 12,000 rpm. The engines will deliver a 35% reduction in fuel consumption and will feature extensive energy management and energy recovery systems, while maintaining current levels of performance. In 2013, five engines will be permitted per driver, but each year after that the limit will be four."
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    The FIA has confirmed several key rule changes for 2011 and beyond including the lifting of the ban on team orders during the final meeting of the World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) in Monaco.

    Team orders were originally banned following Ferrari's manipulation of the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix but the issue again reared its head in this year's German Grand Prix when Ferrari ordered Felipe Massa to surrender the lead to team-mate Fernando Alonso, sparking furious debate.

    "The article forbidding team orders (39.1) is deleted. Teams will be reminded that any actions liable to bring the sport into disrepute are dealt with under Article 151c of the International Sporting Code and any other relevant provisions," read the FIA statement.

    Along with a return to team orders, the FIA also rubber-stamped the introduction of adjustable rear wings for overtaking and the return of energy-recovery KERS systems.

    The rear wings will be 'switched on' when a car is within a second of his adversary and then triggered by the driver.

    Also agreed upon was "a better definition of the reference plane, and reinforcement of bodywork deflection tests, especially at the front of the reference plane" to avoid any repeat of the controversy surrounding the flexibility of Red Bull Racing and Ferrari's front wings.

    Looking further afield, the radical new 1.6 litre, four-cylinder engine for 2013, featuring fuel restrictions and the doubling of KERS power was ratified.

    "Following dialogue with the engine manufacturers and experts in this field, the power units will be four cylinders, 1.6 litre with high pressure gasoline injection up to 500 bar with a maximum of 12,000 rpm. The engines will deliver a 35% reduction in fuel consumption and will feature extensive energy management and energy recovery systems, while maintaining current levels of performance. In 2013, five engines will be permitted per driver, but each year after that the limit will be four."

    The changes in full
    - The article forbidding team orders (39.1) is deleted. Teams will be reminded that any actions liable to bring the sport into disrepute are dealt with under Article 151c of the International Sporting Code and any other relevant provisions
    - Amendments to the list of penalties Stewards are permitted to apply
    - Revisions to driving and driver conduct
    - A limit on the width of the fast lane in the pits
    - The introduction of a regulation permitting the Race Director to close the pit lane during a race for safety reasons
    - The re-introduction of intermediate tyres for 2011
    - Penalties to be applied to any driver who fails to use both specification of dry weather tyre during the race
    - An amendment requiring gearboxes to be used for five consecutive races, instead of four
    - Clarification on when cars can overtake the safety car
    - A refinement to the principles of the regulations already agreed concerning moveable rear wings
    - A better definition of the reference plane, and reinforcement of bodywork deflection tests, especially at the front of the reference plane
    - The allowance for anti-intrusion panels to protect drivers' legs
    Amendments to the 2012 Technical Regulations were made in the following areas:
    - Team communications will be made available to broadcasters
    - The inclusion of fuel compounds produced from biomass
    - A limitation on suspension uprights
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    Thngs souring already for proton, renault.

    The decision of Group Lotus to switch allegiance to the RenaultF1 team from Tony Fernandes' Team Lotus risks bringing the sport into disrepute and damaging the brand made so iconic by Colin Chapman.

    That is the view of David Hunt, who held the rights to the 'Team Lotus' name before recently selling it to Tony Fernandes' outfit.

    Despite Group Lotus claiming it owns the naming rights and withdrawing the licence from Team Lotus, Fernandes insists he still owns the rights after buying them from Hunt.

    Group Lotus, headed by Dany Bahar, announced on Wednesday that it will be the title sponsor and a major shareholder of RenaultF1, with the team to be re-branded Lotus Renault GP.

    It has led to the bizarre prospect of two Malaysian-backed Lotus teams on the grid, fielding four similar cars all powered by Renault engines and fielding near-identical black and gold liveries.

    "Have the sponsors on Renault's car all been warned what they are in for and the damage that might occur to their brand through association of what is effectively a declaration of war by Proton?" Hunt told the Norwich Evening News. "And given Renault still have a suspended sentence tied to them after bringing the sport into disrepute [for crashgate] in 2008, are they doing so again by deliberately and wilfully confusing the public over the Lotus brand? I think it's silly, whatever angle you look at it. Talk about confusing the public."

    Genii Capital chairman Gerard Lopez owns a 70% stake in the RenaultF1 team and helped broker the deal for Group Lotus to buy Renault's remaining 30% stake.

    "As far as we're concerned Bernie has been involved and obviously this happened with his blessing," Lopez told the Telegraph.


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    France 'auto-phobic', says Prost

    Four-time world champion and former team owner Alain Prost says he is saddened by Renault's decision to sell its remaining shares to Group Lotus because it reflects badly on his country's commitment to Formula One.

    RenaultF1 announced on Wednesday that Group Lotus will be the title sponsor and a major shareholder in the rebranded Lotus Renault GP Team in 2011. And, according to Prost, the move means that France no longer cares about the sport he loves.

    "These are the facts. We [France] have hit the bottom," Prost told Auto Hebdo. "You can be optimistic and hope people realise this is not a good thing for a car country like France. So perhaps there will be measures or strategies implemented to return things to normal, maybe even better than in the past.

    "But it's extremely difficult right now because our country has become a little auto-phobic. Companies and marques have no desire to invest in Formula One."

    Although Renault continues to manufacture and supply engines to Formula One teams, there is no French Grand Prix on the calendar and no French drivers on the grid.

    "That there is no French Grand Prix is one thing, but that there are no French drivers racing is a big gap. That is what brings people's interest to the sport. For me it's not a surprise and it wasn't inevitable."

    Prost himself drove for Renault in the early 80s and formed a team in his own name after taking over and re-branding the famous Ligier outfit. But Prost is saddened that there is now no name in the sport for France to be proud of.

    "The Renault team was part of history and heritage so when you lose that it's hard to get back. Being an engine supplier of course is very good, but I think it [Renault's departure as a team owner] is a shame. But then, I understand the need to make savings. But it's going to be more even difficult for France and French drivers."

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    Whatever solution they find will out of necessity not be directly related to logic or the law IMO. This is because several entities in fact can own the rights to a specific name simultaneously in a number of regions, and F1 is a traveling gig. They'll come up with something that seems reasonable on the surface but almost certainly ignores intellectual property rights somewhere or other, and they'll just run with that.
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    It's just all sooo silly. Why not continue to sponsor the existing lotus team. This just seems like a "**** off".
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    McLaren guru: Plenty of room for innovation Saturday 11th December 2010

    McLaren's chief engineer Tim Goss says things are "looking very good" in terms of innovative designs for the team's 2011 challenger.

    Drivers Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button have already had their seat fittings at the McLaren HQ in Woking this week and both have been extremely impressed with the MP4-26.

    "It's looking very good," Goss told Autosport. "We can't say much about it at the moment, but Doug [McKiernan, chief aerodynamicist] and his team have done a great job of creating the aerodynamic platform for the car, and it is looking good."

    McLaren were the pioneers of the F-duct this year, but that device will be banned from 2011. However, that doesn't mean there will be no room for new innovations next year.

    "It is good, and it is nice that there are still those niches around," Goss added. "There is always room in the regulations for innovation, and making Championship winning cars is about doing that.

    "[The F-duct] was a grey area and we had to properly explore the regulations. All credit to Charlie [Whiting] and the FIA that they didn't back away from it. They heard the arguments, believed them and let us get on with it. They were fully up to speed before we raced it."

    The F-duct won Goss and McKiernan the Pioneering and Innovation Award at the Autosport Awards.

    "It was actually an awful lot of hard work," said Goss. "We had a pretty crazy idea and to turn that into reality then you have to have people who believe in the aerodynamicists.

    "Aerodynamicists will often come up with an idea that seems pretty stupid - and when you say 'we are going to use the driver to somehow stall the rear wing' then you will have lots of doubters.

    "So you have to put a case together that say it is actually going to be legal, it is going to make the car quicker, we are going to get it to work and it is worth all the time and effort and resource that we sink into it. We had to hive off a whole chunk of aerodynamic development and engineering time to turn what was just an idea and a few sketches into reality."

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    Team lotus will be back in the green and yellow livery.

    Team Lotus to keep green livery

    By Jonathan Noble Saturday, December 11th 2010, 15:25 GMT

    Team Lotus will now stick with its green and yellow colours for 2011 after chief Tony Fernandes said it would be 'ludicrous' for his squad to run in the same paint scheme as the rebranded Lotus Renault outfit.

    In the wake of the announcement this week that Lotus Cars was buying a stake in the Renault team and becoming its title sponsor, there had been fears that confusion could be caused by both the Enstone outfit and Team Lotus racing with the same black and gold colours for next year.

    However, although Fernandes remains steadfast that he will stick with the Team Lotus moniker, he thinks it better for his outfit to stick with the famous green and yellow brand that it used this season rather than see through his original plans to run in black and gold.

    Speaking exclusively to AUTOSPORT for the first time since the Lotus/Renault announcement, Fernandes said: "I have no problem that there will be two Lotuses on the grid. But I do think it would be ludicrous if we are both black and gold, and I can inform you that we will be changing our plans for the colour scheme.

    "We declared that we were going to run in black and gold, and I'm not going to be childish to say we were first with our plans, so we will do it whatever. They have painted their car black and gold, they have made their intentions clear on that front, so be it.

    "But every cloud has a silver lining, and I received some messages from people suggesting that by being black and gold we would be promoting a cigarette company. I wasn't actually aware that JPS [John Player Special] was still being sold in the United Kingdom and various parts of the Commonwealth. So did I need that controversy? No.

    "And after yesterday's announcement by the FIA about the new engine plans for 2013, which means F1 is going green - so what better colour to be than green? So, we have been testing our fans' reactions and many have come back to us to say we should stay green and yellow. So, I am 99 per cent sure that we will be green and yellow."

    Fernandes has expressed some frustration that Lotus has decided to team up with Renault, rather than throw its weight behind Team Lotus.

    Speaking about the Lotus Cars decision, Fernandes said: "My first reaction is obviously disappointment. We were originally given a mandate for five years to go and develop a Formula 1 team.

    "There are comments that have emerged in the Malaysian press that Proton was disappointed with our performance, which is one of the reasons that they gave up. I don't know how anyone in their right mind could expect us to be competing in the top half of the grid, or even up in the bottom half of the grid, last year - having just been given an entry in September.

    "I stand by the fact that I think we did very well in the year and I think that 99 per cent of the paddock would agree considering where we came from. We built a classy team - a team that could do pitstops in the same time as Ferrari. We looked good, we had a good motorhome and performed well on the track with two good drivers.

    "We were the best of the new teams. We had two good drivers and Heikki Kovalainen said he had the greatest season he has had in F1 – which is great testament from a guy who has driven for McLaren and Renault. So I am a bit disappointed that we did not get a chance [from Proton/Group Lotus]."

    He added: "Logically I think we could have built a great brand together. I think this year if anyone says that we didn't help Lotus then I think they are mad, because we have helped them. And the reaction from the public is very strongly in support of us. So I think given time we would have built something good, and the perfect scenario for me would have been a merger of the two with one ambition."

    Fernandes has said that he will push on with legal moves to get a clarification on the Lotus name situation in the courts, and said he has been hugely encouraged by messages of support from fans.

    "You cannot win people overnight," he said. "This support we have got has been built up over a year.

    "As I always say, things take time and things have to be done properly. You cannot parachute yourself into a brand. If you look at all my business strategy I have always believed in organic growth. It needs foundations and it needs strategy. You cannot parachute into something and say it is yours.

    "People are not stupid any more, and I think the reason for the support is the people see we are trying to do something the right way.

    "I am not Colin Chapman, and I never will be. He is a legend and we are not going to emulate him – but everything he did is what we are doing. He built it from scratch and did not buy into anything. You have to have brands that people love. There is lots of competition out there and people have to have respect for what you do."
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    The lotus-renault looks just like many predicted black with gold wheels.IMO they could have avoided the red of "TOTAL" to give it a uniform look.
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