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    Quote Originally Posted by mangostick View Post
    call it what you want, its not racing.. its akin to watching stunt driving or going to the circus.

    Racing, it is not and its disturbing when the reference is made.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone mentioned anything about racing in this entire thread except for you.

    Personally I'd be much more interested in seeing a skilled drifter work his magic than someone drive the fastest line on a track.

    Not that I'd ever do that in my car on the street, I know I don't have the skill or equipment for that. But it is fun to get a bit sideways in a empty dirt parking lot every now and again

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    I'll break this down simply;

    Entertainers purposely break traction to put on a show.

    Professional drivers manage and maintain it to get from point to point as fast as possible.

    Drifting will fade away just like the shakes from that sugary energy drink you're holding.

    Personal preference is what it is, I think drifting is a waste of time/rubber/fuel.. etc. I find it boring.. oh yay.. another car sideways.. wa...hoo... I'd much rather watch some skill take place when a real driver over takes another in a spot that it just doesn't seem possible.

    but whatever, the boyracers and wanna-be's love it (drifting) so I guess it has its nitch just like the fast n furious flicks, vinyl graphics, fart cans and extreme tire stretching.
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    Personally I see drifting as what it is, entertainment. I lump it up with freestyle bmx, snowboarding and skateboarding. They all are sports that are based on scores and not speed.

    There is talent needed to drift, and if you can't see that you must be blind. You must have car control to be able to send your car sideways as close to the wall and your opponent.

    That being said I agree that drifting has it's boy racer followers and such, but don't judge the sport because of it's fans.

    I am a bigger Rally fan and road racing fan than a Drift fan, but I do respect what they do, and see it for what it is.

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    Something that should at most be fun between friends on a slow weekend in a vacant lot has somehow been masqueraded into a... sport (?!) and, mostly because of its source, it has appealed to a specific audience (a lot like Pokemon as a phenomenon, but to an older crowd, or other cartoons, I suppose; in fact the problem was at the very least helped along by a cartoon).

    It's doing some damage, inevitably; once in a while there will be a person that thinks "motorsport" doesn't require speed as much as smoke, or that it does require yelling, judges, and models with silicone prostheses. Also, the used car market is now wrecked at least in my area in the US as specific cars are somehow "worth" twice their real value because someone has been watching cartoons from abroad etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    a lot like Pokemon as a phenomenon
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    but to an older crowd
    I'm not as decidedly sure of this as you, SD
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    It was lumped in as a form of racing (at least at first), and that made it appear odd to me the first time I saw it. Once I understood that it was about making your car dance a certain way, and style, I found that I wasn't interested. Different strokes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    It was lumped in as a form of racing (at least at first), and that made it appear odd to me the first time I saw it.
    To me that's the biggest problem. It isn't racing at all. Once people accept that I see no problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A265 View Post
    To me that's the biggest problem. It isn't racing at all. Once people accept that I see no problem with it.
    +1. Formula D and the likes of the third F&F movie seem to instill this idea that Drifting is "racing"
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    Quote Originally Posted by A265 View Post
    To me that's the biggest problem. It isn't racing at all. Once people accept that I see no problem with it.
    ding .. fries are done

    anyone who can handle a car that way has some skill.. however, to me its boring just like tarmac circle track racing. As Ray mentioned.. different strokes.. just dont call it racing. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangostick View Post
    I'll break this down simply;

    Entertainers purposely break traction to put on a show.

    Professional drivers manage and maintain it to get from point to point as fast as possible.

    Drifting will fade away just like the shakes from that sugary energy drink you're holding.

    Personal preference is what it is, I think drifting is a waste of time/rubber/fuel.. etc. I find it boring.. oh yay.. another car sideways.. wa...hoo... I'd much rather watch some skill take place when a real driver over takes another in a spot that it just doesn't seem possible.

    but whatever, the boyracers and wanna-be's love it (drifting) so I guess it has its nitch just like the fast n furious flicks, vinyl graphics, fart cans and extreme tire stretching.
    I guess the best thing I can relate it to is skiing. I realize that's also somewhat of a niche activity, but it seems like a lot of wrx'ers are skiers as well. There's the whole downhill/super g/slalom scene where it is all about going as fast as possible. Then there's the whole park/slopestyle scene which is much more focused on style. They both have their merits and both appeal to different people. And I can assure you that the vast majority of park skiers are not in it to "look cool".

    Just the like the whole drifting vs racing thing, why does there have to be a debate over which is better? The elitist attitude that some of you seem to have is pretty crazy. If you aren't into it, no worries. But can you talk about it without looking down on people who do find it exciting? You sound an old man yelling at them damn kids to get off his lawn.

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    bwahahahahaaha

    dude I'm only 32 and I already yell at the kids for being on my grass When I'm old I wont say anything, I'll just shoot them with a paint ball gun.


    Seriously though and back to topic, I'm personally not looking down on anyone.. its not racing, and though no one HERE mentioned that but me.. it IS mentioned quite a bit out in the motoring world. It grates my nerves because while it is a form of "motorsport" undeniably by definition.. its not racing.

    As I said, anyone who can handle a car that way has skill.. I just dont find anything exciting about it. Just like I dont get fired up about football or baseball or basketball... no interest in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk_Knight View Post
    I guess the best thing I can relate it to is skiing. I realize that's also somewhat of a niche activity, but it seems like a lot of wrx'ers are skiers as well. There's the whole downhill/super g/slalom scene where it is all about going as fast as possible. Then there's the whole park/slopestyle scene which is much more focused on style. They both have their merits and both appeal to different people. And I can assure you that the vast majority of park skiers are not in it to "look cool".

    Just the like the whole drifting vs racing thing, why does there have to be a debate over which is better? The elitist attitude that some of you seem to have is pretty crazy. If you aren't into it, no worries. But can you talk about it without looking down on people who do find it exciting? You sound an old man yelling at them damn kids to get off his lawn.

    One thing you describe is racing and is a true form of sport, the other is an activity that I did after racing with my buddies after practicewhen the coaches let us leave and now for whatever reason is considered a "sport".

    Comparing true motor racing to drifting is insulting to fans and all the drivers who gave their lives racing. driftorinz is not a sport it a trick, a phenomenon, a fad but not sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicWagon View Post
    One thing you describe is racing and is a true form of sport, the other is an activity that I did after racing with my buddies after practicewhen the coaches let us leave and now for whatever reason is considered a "sport".

    Comparing true motor racing to drifting is insulting to fans and all the drivers who gave their lives racing. driftorinz is not a sport it a trick, a phenomenon, a fad but not sport.
    I think the overall point (attempting to be) made here is that "drifting y0" does require a certain amount of practice and skill, talent and control. We all see that, we really do. Whether or not it's a sport is very much debatable. But let's put it this way: Drifting is to motorsport racing what Figure Skating is to Speed Skating -- a pure demonstration of skill. Terrific morons who truly believe that it is a form of racing (as perpetuated by that idiotic Fast and the Furious movie) are to blame for the craze that has ensued. That being said, I don't like Figure Skating and I don't like Drifting, but I can understand how it's popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk_Knight View Post
    Just the like the whole drifting vs racing thing, why does there have to be a debate over which is better?
    I don't think there's a debate.

    You sound an {sic} old man yelling at them damn kids to get off his lawn.
    I'm sure it's fun. I remember a long time ago at a track event, Avon brought a truckload of rubbish (maybe they were trying to kill us, I can't work it out) and we tried to use it anyway, and people were going off left and right. It was comical. Then one guy decided to take the worst pair he had, put them in the back of his Escort, and do the entire straight sideways. Great fun to watch. Was it motorsport? No.

    As I've said before, as long as they don't damage any of the infrastructure, it could even be helpful for motorsports by laying rubber down on the tarmac. Beyond that though, there's not much else to say. If people want to, and can make a living by getting people to pay for tickets, trinkets, car parts, ads, entry fees, or whatever, that's great for them. An honest living is always honorable.

    To treat it as controversial is IMO elevating it to a level it doesn't quite deserve.

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