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    I think it's horrible, now what happens to English based lotus? Stupid proton lotus can't be French....
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    They're mirroring what happened to Lotus four decades ago, when they morphed from the green livery to the black/gold John Player Special livery and used the Renault turbo motors. I'm betting the cars will be quicker this year too.
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    Which team? there are Now 2 lotus teams on the grid.

    Last years lotus, Team lotus based out of England and now renaultF1 is lotus (proton).


    UK based team lotus will have Renault engines and red bull gearboxs and hydraulics.

    French based proton lotus renault will have the Renault everything
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    I dont think its a bad idea...Lotus's cars had tons of problems this year. Maybe next year they'll have better reliability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsWRCinmyWRX View Post
    I dont think its a bad idea...Lotus's cars had tons of problems this year. Maybe next year they'll have better reliability.
    Obviously this years lotus (team lotus) will improve, red bull gearboxes and Renault engines will be a major improvement over cosworth and Xtract. Will they be as good as the torro rossos, Williams and force India is the question. I'm sure they will beat the hrts and virgins.

    I think that lotus Renault will slide backwards next year, proton is a poorly run company and the competition from Mercedes GP will take points from them.
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    More News...movable rear wings for 2011, and major engine formula change for 2013. 1.6 liter 4-bangers!

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    The starting grid is going to sound like **** with what 24 screaming 1.6 litre 4 cylinders.
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    Did I read that right that they will be limited to 12,000 rpms? This is going to be an interesting technical challenge for the engineers at Ferrari, Renault and Mercedes. I'm thinking that this will also bring big changes to the amount of fuel that they have to carry around for the race.
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    Low-rev, 1.6L turbos with fuel limits are going to be tremendous IMO, not just for F1. Road car technology will benefit as well IMO. It definitely benefited when the turbo 1.5L cars were producing 800+ hp (The BMW motor was rumoured to make 1000+ on the dyno, using the "stock" block from the 70HP 315).

    I fondly remember the 1.5L turbo days -- but I don't quite remember all those cars that didn't have a turbo motor and ended up using a Cosworth V8 atmospherically aspirated motor instead, because nobody remembers who finished 20th etc. every GP... No comparison to the turbo 1.5L cars!

    I wonder how/why they settled on 1.6L and not 1.5 this time, and also why it took them so long to go back to turbos.
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    I didn't see mention of turbos. Do you have a source for that?
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    Argh!... I see "DI" and think "FI" instead... You are right! Direct injection! Doh!

    Off to pour a cup of coffee...
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    OK so turbo and direct injection with a max fuel pressure of 500 bar, 1.6L. This has "1200HP" written all over it. It's only a matter of time before they figure out how to make the fuel restrictions less and less meaningful. I'm liking this.
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