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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbleiweiss View Post
    Yea I've been looking into that for a while, it looks like they only offer collision insurance my parents are making me have liability insurance too.. I'm thinking I could just get an older rx-7 like gen1 for a grand or 2! any thoughts or ideas on that?
    If you are getting a dedicated track car, adopt one from someone that's moving on. It'll ideally have a log book and will be easier to deal with when it comes time to pass tech. This will save you time, and time=money.

    IMO, the Wankel motor is a great idea on paper but that's where it belongs. NSU failed at it, but Mazda insisted for some reason. Their loss. Don't make it your loss too. Pushing a car is great exercise but there's so many other ways to get or stay fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    If you are getting a dedicated track car, adopt one from someone that's moving on. It'll ideally have a log book and will be easier to deal with when it comes time to pass tech. This will save you time, and time=money.

    IMO, the Wankel motor is a great idea on paper but that's where it belongs. NSU failed at it, but Mazda insisted for some reason. Their loss. Don't make it your loss too. Pushing a car is great exercise but there's so many other ways to get or stay fit.
    exercise for the car?

    I hear great things about the rotary engine, if you keep up the maintenance, I found a gen 2 FC really close to me for a great price, anything obviously wrong? Any thoughts and ideas from you mazda guys out there would be greatly appreciated and thanks sd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbleiweiss View Post
    Yea I've been looking into that for a while, it looks like they only offer collision insurance my parents are making me have liability insurance too.. I'm thinking I could just get an older rx-7 like gen1 for a grand or 2! any thoughts or ideas on that?
    Liability from what? Are they afraid the guy you might hit is going to sue you? anyway, if you need your parents permission, I am assuming you are either a minor or still under their care (ie. they are paying your bills.) I see guys suggesting you get a cheap beater to track, but that isn't going to solve your liability problem. You should try talking your folks into letting you autocross, the chances of damaging your car are very low, I've seen very few incidents in the 50+ autocrosses I've been to, a couple of broken parts, mostly on heavily modified cars. I think the only issue I have ever seen on a mostly stock car in good condition was a radiator in a BMW 3 series that sprang a leak. I've seen one "wreck" and that was a Camaro that spun out in an odd spot and hit a curb, breaking the rim. 50 autocrosses with probably an average of 90 cars doing 5 runs each is over 22,000 runs with about 5 minor incidents. Whatever you do, though, be careful asking your auto insurance agent about track insurance. There are threads out there about guys getting dropped just for asking.
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    Yep, I'm 17. They are worried about me hitting other cars, at SCCA AutoX events they provide liability for a price I believe. But I dont think it will be a problem if I can convince them there would only be one car on the track at a time *if there really will, don't wanna lie here lol bad idea*
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    Not to many worries about hitting another car at an autocross, not that it couldn't happen, don't let your folks google "wrecked gt3 autocross". And I can't think of any track or autocross event where you don't sign a waiver with language releasing your right to sue a promoter, track or participants. In fact, as a minor, your parents will have to sign a waiver also.
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    bring a razor blade and scrape off the numbers no big deal. Have fun!
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    if you hit a car on a drag strip with a 11 second or slower car you may bigger issues than a car accident
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    heard there is an ecu out thats like the hondata but for subbys.

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    I went to a skip barber 2 day program. It was basically learning autocross technique for a thousand+ dollars. (trail braking, heal toe, some hours on a skid pad, all that good stuff) Autocross to me is a good place to learn those things and practice them. If you buy a beater for the same cost as the school, you can teach yourself or borrow an instructor and learn techniques with more hours of fun. Thats kinda my plan to practice what I have learned over the last three years about racing, the only technique I have yet to try is a 360゜ turn. Anyone have tips?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbleiweiss View Post

    I saw that but I just figured they were like go-karts? Any idea how much a day of that would cost?
    go-karts that may hit 60mph in 3 sec. and pull 3gs laterally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rollinstylee View Post
    Might I suggest an SVT Contour? (I miiiiight be slightly biased. ) They have a nice flexible 2.5 V6 that responds well to very simple and inexpensive mods while still getting excellent mileage, they handle fantastically even in stock form, pretty luxurious if you also need to use it as a commuter, and they can be had in good condition in the $3000 range.
    Two words: oil starvation.

    A Civic or a Miata will be cheap *and* light on consumables, something that a 3000+ lb FWD car will not.

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    Another two words: more oil!

    The oil starvation issue is only likely to happen running at or below factory spec oil level, with the old style pan, with the engine running 6K RPM or more in extended right hand high-g sweepers. It's well known among owners that keeping 6.5 quarts of oil in the engine, and/or having the updated oil pan all but eliminates the risk. Sure, a Miata is an excellent track car but I wouldn't want one as my only vehicle! Plus I was going along with the FWD suggestion earlier in the thread. And everyone and their sister mods a Civic, that suggestion is a given. Nothing wrong with exploring alternatives for a cheap trackable DD.
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    Why not a track day? No chance of side by side racing, you can use your own car, and you get instruction at the same time. Safety rules are enforced, tech inspection prior to racing, and if you break it, just have it towed home. Probably the best and cheapest way for an intro to racing. Very exciting too.

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