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This is a discussion on Stick w/ STX or say it screw it and go ESP within the Motorsports Talk forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; don't know the guy personally, I know he tracks his car not autox- he's running the R6's, not the A6's ...

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    don't know the guy personally, I know he tracks his car not autox- he's running the R6's, not the A6's

    the flares he purchased for $650, but are now sold evidently for $199

    I think painted would look better personally, but 275's on a wagon is cool any way you look at it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    still debating

    here's a wagon guy running 275 Hoosiers
    How stiff are his springs and how much camber can he get in front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButtDyno View Post
    How stiff are his springs and how much camber can he get in front?
    don't have much for details on his setup, I'll see what I can find out
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    I've been considering this as well. This is how my logic started: I'm in STU, and comparing PAX for STU and ESP... they're not that different... 0.830 vs. 0.841. So, over a 40 sec course, ESP-me has to be about 0.4 sec faster then STU-me. I think r-comps alone would do that (and then some), let alone r-comps+boost.

    The gearing changed for the 2.5L, but the redline was also dropped down to 6500 so essentially the "top speed in gear" is about the same for the 2.0 and the 2.5. But there's no doubt that the 2.5 in Stage2 tune makes some monstrous torque, and that's just with an OTS map.

    As already discussed, unless you want to demolish your wagon fenders running super-fat tires might be out of the question. Although, we had a WRX sedan ESP competitor locally last year that ran tires that protruded pretty far past his rear fenders, but due to the 650# springs rubbing wasn't really an issue. So maybe if you ran superhigh rear rates and a high enough ride height you could get away with it.

    Really more than anything though I'm just curious to try out some r-comps. It would be a handy setup, you could get a nice comfortable summer DD tire that excels in wet (SPT, 452) and use that for rain events, and use the r-comps for dry events.
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    if I was already in a 2.5 my decision would be much easier

    that's a tough row to hoe in STU w/ STi's/EVO's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    that's a tough row to hoe in STU w/ STi's/EVO's!
    Yeah, there's no denying that the 2.5's should be faster than the 2.0's (I think we're putting down about 15 more whp), but those STEvo's are tough. Then again, I'm not really running an optimal autoX susp setup to begin with, so...

    What wheels are you thinking of? 17x8.5's?

    I need to visit this forum more... too many damn forums!
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    I'm thinking (daydreaming ) either 9" f/r or probably more likely 9" front (sedan width arms in the front) and 8.5" rear- either 245's or 255's
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    Saw that your Enkeis sold... is it official?

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    Enkei's officially sold

    I'll most likely finish out the year in STX (I have another set of 17x8 Enkei's wrapped w/ Advans), but will be keeping my eye for some 17x8.5's or 9's. I'll have to mull the tire and size options carefully

    I thwacked a deer yesterday morning , so I'm currently debating going w/ sedan fenders for ESP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    I thwacked a deer yesterday morning , so I'm currently debating going w/ sedan fenders for ESP
    Have you considered going with 275 up front?

    I'd do the sedan fenders and arms.
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    I have, what's holding be back on that plan is the inability to rotate tires and finding a very close match to height in the rear w/ say 255's.

    I'm definitely going to the sedan arms in front (so sure I sourced a set already )

    I'm torn on the sedan fenders- I'm not sure if I'm digging the look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    I'm torn on the sedan fenders- I'm not sure if I'm digging the look.
    You will need the extra room for tires!

    I'm also thinking that with that much of a wider track in the front and possibly wider tires to boot, you shouldn't need a whole heep ton of roll stiffness in the back of the car to promote rotation. I think you're going to have the rear end of the car rather on the soft side in regard to setup. I think you're car is going to drive much more like a rally car than a corner carver. You may be able to induce rotation with the steering wheel with the softer rear setup (read throw the car into corners) and then catch the rear end with the softer springs.

    I'm quite curious how the car with handle with the difference in track width.
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    I agree on the springs- instead of the "tried and true" 8/10, 10/12, etc, I'll probably end up w/ more along the lines of a 8/8 or 8/7 (still will see daily driving duty )

    I've definitely noticed that w/ even the 5mm spacers up front a difference in handling- it dialed out some understeer
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    Are the sedan control arms legal because of update/backdate?
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    correct

    as would be the quicker steering rack they got in 05
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