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Pzary3233 · 03-27-2008, 10:24 AM

Secured lift/air/alignment rack for this afternoon! So I hope that I can drop the subframe and get those bushings in!

Good thinking, I will look at the numbers and see where things end up. However with canting the plates will I be able to have both my Auto X and street settings? I don't want to drive a couple thousand miles round trip somewhere with 3degrees of neg camber and toe. Though it would make for a nice handling car!

Ordering the MXs after class and working on the car. Though not sure about them yet... I loved my Hankooks and they worked really well in the wet stuff, still do! I have heard that the 'kooks do not like track days and grease up. The MXs I've heard don't have a very long life.. The Kooks got close to 40k miles on them. On some forums the MXs are said to not be very nice in the wet stuff... I guess I'll take a gamble with them... for the price they are hard to beat...
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rtnum=25WR6EMX
Plus I can get road hazzard on the MXs :-)

**Big Sky WRX** · 03-27-2008, 12:24 PM

If your thinking about going back and forth- it should work either way- as long as you can accurately repeat the settings back and forth- that's where plates like the PDE ones shine as they actually have holes that a pin pops in-other camber plates are a little more tricky getting things exactly back.

Pzary3233 · 03-27-2008, 01:48 PM

Yeah, I liked the PDE plates, but sold them when JR offered his lowering plates. I was going to take a dremel and scribe a mark at both settings and then paint the scribe.

One cavot that I have found... the plates are not going to clear the coilover spring without a spacer... :-( I'll take a picture and show you what I mean later today.

Pzary3233 · 03-27-2008, 08:35 PM

So I was talking a with a friend of mine and he said he had a tatrix cable laying around as well as the plug soooo... I downloaded enginuity and the required definitions tonight and I am going to run some data logs tomorrow. I've done a bit of searching and found some basic maps that might work well for STX. I am going to have to figure out a way to data log while running the Auto X Course.... Ideas?

Web Foot STi · 03-28-2008, 12:39 AM

Love the 1602. My old car is a 2002. Not the Tii. I bought the STi after I did a thumb nail estimat on the cost of getting a 20B installed. The '04 was cheaper!

Pzary3233 · 03-28-2008, 07:29 AM

They are fun little cars!!!

So cancel lift access, had to go to work instead, things kinda got screwed up there so it looks like work work work for a while and no working on cars. or alignment. Ordered the MXs last night they should be here monday, get those put on tuesday with an alignment if I can get the offset bushings in.

So I'm getting some "spring" noise from the front left and I have a feeling it is from the camber plate hitting the spring. So I am going to have to bug a machinist friend of mine to make some spacers I think.

**Big Sky WRX** · 03-28-2008, 08:05 PM

^ don't be afraid to call Myles and gang at RCE- they use their plates on coilovers as well as "regular" strut/springs so they may have an idea what you need for your setup

Pzary3233 · 03-28-2008, 11:37 PM

^ This is very true!

I did a garage alignment today with a seemingly flat surface, and i was able to get -3 degrees camber and 1/16" toe in the front, I didn't really touch the rear. However I noticed a bit of spring interference, so I went to around 1 degree... sad... I'll give the RCE guys a call on Monday.

It's raining, so no wrenching...

wrx wagone · 03-29-2008, 12:16 AM

I'd recommend at LEAST 1/8" toe in up to 1/4".

Pzary3233 · 03-29-2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrx wagone

I'd recommend at LEAST 1/8" toe in up to 1/4".

I am shooting for 1/8" toe in when I get it aligned on the rack, this alignment was to save money and my worn tires.

**Big Sky WRX** · 03-29-2008, 08:11 AM

toe IN? are you talking for the "street" setting?

wrx wagone · 03-29-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX

toe IN? are you talking for the "street" setting?

Baahhh... I'm being dumb. Toe OUT, my apologies.

Pzary3233 · 03-29-2008, 01:06 PM

Yes for right now.

But correct toe out usually.

**Big Sky WRX** · 03-29-2008, 01:51 PM

now we're on the same page

it is possible if your considering a "street" setting and a autox setting to swap back and forth- your street setting may be toe in- as you add neg camber your toe goes out- so depending on what camber settings one selects and ultimately what they want for toe out for autox- you may end up w/ some toe in for street (which is fine as long as it isn't excessive)- this will take some time on the alignment rack to figure out

Pzary3233 · 03-31-2008, 09:11 PM

Scheduled another day tomorrow to work on the car and use the rack... We'll see if that works! I'm also going to get my Kumhos mounted up as well :-)

Someone buy these!
Ground Contol Adj. Springs/TN

03-27-2008, 10:24 AM	#16 (permalink)
Pzary3233 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL is home... Memphis, TN for school Posts: 1	Secured lift/air/alignment rack for this afternoon! So I hope that I can drop the subframe and get those bushings in! Good thinking, I will look at the numbers and see where things end up. However with canting the plates will I be able to have both my Auto X and street settings? I don't want to drive a couple thousand miles round trip somewhere with 3degrees of neg camber and toe. Though it would make for a nice handling car! Ordering the MXs after class and working on the car. Though not sure about them yet... I loved my Hankooks and they worked really well in the wet stuff, still do! I have heard that the 'kooks do not like track days and grease up. The MXs I've heard don't have a very long life.. The Kooks got close to 40k miles on them. On some forums the MXs are said to not be very nice in the wet stuff... I guess I'll take a gamble with them... for the price they are hard to beat... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rtnum=25WR6EMX Plus I can get road hazzard on the MXs :-) __________________ 2002 PSM WRX <- going back to stock Suspension parts GALORE for sale! The Project STX Sedan Build Thread Race hard or go home! Last edited by Pzary3233; 03-27-2008 at 10:49 AM..

03-27-2008, 12:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Big Sky WRX Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Posts: 11,613	If your thinking about going back and forth- it should work either way- as long as you can accurately repeat the settings back and forth- that's where plates like the PDE ones shine as they actually have holes that a pin pops in-other camber plates are a little more tricky getting things exactly back. __________________ "Simplify and add lightness." - Colin Chapman

03-27-2008, 01:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
Pzary3233 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL is home... Memphis, TN for school Posts: 1	Yeah, I liked the PDE plates, but sold them when JR offered his lowering plates. I was going to take a dremel and scribe a mark at both settings and then paint the scribe. One cavot that I have found... the plates are not going to clear the coilover spring without a spacer... :-( I'll take a picture and show you what I mean later today. __________________ 2002 PSM WRX <- going back to stock Suspension parts GALORE for sale! The Project STX Sedan Build Thread Race hard or go home!

03-27-2008, 08:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
Pzary3233 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL is home... Memphis, TN for school Posts: 1	So I was talking a with a friend of mine and he said he had a tatrix cable laying around as well as the plug soooo... I downloaded enginuity and the required definitions tonight and I am going to run some data logs tomorrow. I've done a bit of searching and found some basic maps that might work well for STX. I am going to have to figure out a way to data log while running the Auto X Course.... Ideas? __________________ 2002 PSM WRX <- going back to stock Suspension parts GALORE for sale! The Project STX Sedan Build Thread Race hard or go home!

03-28-2008, 12:39 AM	#20 (permalink)
Web Foot STi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 637	Love the 1602. My old car is a 2002. Not the Tii. I bought the STi after I did a thumb nail estimat on the cost of getting a 20B installed. The '04 was cheaper! __________________ Cones don't count at Hillclimbs.

03-28-2008, 07:29 AM	#21 (permalink)
Pzary3233 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL is home... Memphis, TN for school Posts: 1	They are fun little cars!!! So cancel lift access, had to go to work instead, things kinda got screwed up there so it looks like work work work for a while and no working on cars. or alignment. Ordered the MXs last night they should be here monday, get those put on tuesday with an alignment if I can get the offset bushings in. So I'm getting some "spring" noise from the front left and I have a feeling it is from the camber plate hitting the spring. So I am going to have to bug a machinist friend of mine to make some spacers I think. __________________ 2002 PSM WRX <- going back to stock Suspension parts GALORE for sale! The Project STX Sedan Build Thread Race hard or go home!

03-28-2008, 08:05 PM	#22 (permalink)
Big Sky WRX Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Posts: 11,613	^ don't be afraid to call Myles and gang at RCE- they use their plates on coilovers as well as "regular" strut/springs so they may have an idea what you need for your setup __________________ "Simplify and add lightness." - Colin Chapman

03-28-2008, 11:37 PM	#23 (permalink)
Pzary3233 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL is home... Memphis, TN for school Posts: 1	^ This is very true! I did a garage alignment today with a seemingly flat surface, and i was able to get -3 degrees camber and 1/16" toe in the front, I didn't really touch the rear. However I noticed a bit of spring interference, so I went to around 1 degree... sad... I'll give the RCE guys a call on Monday. It's raining, so no wrenching... __________________ 2002 PSM WRX <- going back to stock Suspension parts GALORE for sale! The Project STX Sedan Build Thread Race hard or go home!

03-29-2008, 12:16 AM	#24 (permalink)
wrx wagone Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phillytown, PA Posts: 10,557	I'd recommend at LEAST 1/8" toe in up to 1/4". __________________ JR - 95 STX 2007 Philly & SJR SCCA STX Champion Sponsored by JSC Speed My AutoX Build Thread: Teh Cone Dodgin' STX Wagon

03-29-2008, 08:11 AM	#26 (permalink)
Big Sky WRX Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Posts: 11,613	toe IN? are you talking for the "street" setting? __________________ "Simplify and add lightness." - Colin Chapman

03-29-2008, 01:06 PM	#28 (permalink)
Pzary3233 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL is home... Memphis, TN for school Posts: 1	Yes for right now. But correct toe out usually. __________________ 2002 PSM WRX <- going back to stock Suspension parts GALORE for sale! The Project STX Sedan Build Thread Race hard or go home!

03-29-2008, 01:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
Big Sky WRX Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plains of Eastern Montana Posts: 11,613	now we're on the same page it is possible if your considering a "street" setting and a autox setting to swap back and forth- your street setting may be toe in- as you add neg camber your toe goes out- so depending on what camber settings one selects and ultimately what they want for toe out for autox- you may end up w/ some toe in for street (which is fine as long as it isn't excessive)- this will take some time on the alignment rack to figure out __________________ "Simplify and add lightness." - Colin Chapman

03-31-2008, 09:11 PM	#30 (permalink)
Pzary3233 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL is home... Memphis, TN for school Posts: 1	Scheduled another day tomorrow to work on the car and use the rack... We'll see if that works! I'm also going to get my Kumhos mounted up as well :-) Someone buy these! Ground Contol Adj. Springs/TN __________________ 2002 PSM WRX <- going back to stock Suspension parts GALORE for sale! The Project STX Sedan Build Thread Race hard or go home!

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