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This is a discussion on The Project STX Sedan Thread within the Motorsports Talk forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Secured lift/air/alignment rack for this afternoon! So I hope that I can drop the subframe and get those bushings in! ...

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    Secured lift/air/alignment rack for this afternoon! So I hope that I can drop the subframe and get those bushings in!

    Good thinking, I will look at the numbers and see where things end up. However with canting the plates will I be able to have both my Auto X and street settings? I don't want to drive a couple thousand miles round trip somewhere with 3degrees of neg camber and toe. Though it would make for a nice handling car!

    Ordering the MXs after class and working on the car. Though not sure about them yet... I loved my Hankooks and they worked really well in the wet stuff, still do! I have heard that the 'kooks do not like track days and grease up. The MXs I've heard don't have a very long life.. The Kooks got close to 40k miles on them. On some forums the MXs are said to not be very nice in the wet stuff... I guess I'll take a gamble with them... for the price they are hard to beat...
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    Plus I can get road hazzard on the MXs :-)
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    If your thinking about going back and forth- it should work either way- as long as you can accurately repeat the settings back and forth- that's where plates like the PDE ones shine as they actually have holes that a pin pops in-other camber plates are a little more tricky getting things exactly back.
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    Yeah, I liked the PDE plates, but sold them when JR offered his lowering plates. I was going to take a dremel and scribe a mark at both settings and then paint the scribe.

    One cavot that I have found... the plates are not going to clear the coilover spring without a spacer... :-( I'll take a picture and show you what I mean later today.
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    So I was talking a with a friend of mine and he said he had a tatrix cable laying around as well as the plug soooo... I downloaded enginuity and the required definitions tonight and I am going to run some data logs tomorrow. I've done a bit of searching and found some basic maps that might work well for STX. I am going to have to figure out a way to data log while running the Auto X Course.... Ideas?
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    Love the 1602. My old car is a 2002. Not the Tii. I bought the STi after I did a thumb nail estimat on the cost of getting a 20B installed. The '04 was cheaper!
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    They are fun little cars!!!

    So cancel lift access, had to go to work instead, things kinda got screwed up there so it looks like work work work for a while and no working on cars. or alignment. Ordered the MXs last night they should be here monday, get those put on tuesday with an alignment if I can get the offset bushings in.

    So I'm getting some "spring" noise from the front left and I have a feeling it is from the camber plate hitting the spring. So I am going to have to bug a machinist friend of mine to make some spacers I think.
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    ^ don't be afraid to call Myles and gang at RCE- they use their plates on coilovers as well as "regular" strut/springs so they may have an idea what you need for your setup
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    ^ This is very true!

    I did a garage alignment today with a seemingly flat surface, and i was able to get -3 degrees camber and 1/16" toe in the front, I didn't really touch the rear. However I noticed a bit of spring interference, so I went to around 1 degree... sad... I'll give the RCE guys a call on Monday.

    It's raining, so no wrenching...
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    I'd recommend at LEAST 1/8" toe in up to 1/4".
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx wagone View Post
    I'd recommend at LEAST 1/8" toe in up to 1/4".
    I am shooting for 1/8" toe in when I get it aligned on the rack, this alignment was to save money and my worn tires.
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    toe IN? are you talking for the "street" setting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    toe IN? are you talking for the "street" setting?
    Baahhh... I'm being dumb. Toe OUT, my apologies.
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    Yes for right now.

    But correct toe out usually.
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    now we're on the same page

    it is possible if your considering a "street" setting and a autox setting to swap back and forth- your street setting may be toe in- as you add neg camber your toe goes out- so depending on what camber settings one selects and ultimately what they want for toe out for autox- you may end up w/ some toe in for street (which is fine as long as it isn't excessive)- this will take some time on the alignment rack to figure out
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    Scheduled another day tomorrow to work on the car and use the rack... We'll see if that works! I'm also going to get my Kumhos mounted up as well :-)

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