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    Looks like two new tire entries in the ST* class

    straight from the SEMA show

    Toyo R1R and the Kumho Ecsta XS

    http://www.good-win-racing.com/mazda...opic.php?t=882
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    From the looks of things, the Toyo has too much open tread area to be a contender for much more than STS2.

    The Kumho looks like it may have something there.
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    got the relatively new Dunlop too

    if nothing else it would nice if it forced prices down - ST* tires are priced too high IMO
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    The Toyo comes in 195/50/15 and 225/45/15, perfect for me to put on my MR2 and drive it into a fence. People that can actually drive will probably record some great times with these on MR2s though. I also saw a "coming soon" thing in one of the photos listing 225/50/16, perfect for my Impreza stockers.

    The Kumho will -- I guarantee -- be L O U D but that's not the point obviously. It'll also tramline on roads, especially when worn in. I have foreseen it.

    The more stuff out there the better. New prices will be lower due to competition, and who knows, maybe some people will take a plunge they regret and turn around to sell lightly used sets for even less money. The market is looking great these days, eh?
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    I've always been a pretty big Toyo fan, their previous offerings simply were to soft in the sidewall for a competition tire. They talk a bit about stiffening the sidewall on the R1R- we'll see how they do w/ it.

    I'm hoping GRM might grab a bucnh of these new tires (including the Dunlop) along w/ a couple of the old and give them a good thrashing
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    I'm very interested in the new Dunlops. I've been very impressed with my Wintersports. Also as a tire manufacturer, they have a great history in motorsport. The more options the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx wagone View Post
    The more options the better.
    Agreed. Good for further development and good for pricing

    The idea that a guy has to spend $200ish a corner for a "street" tire is not overly appealing to me
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    yeah bringing this back from the dead, Big Sky, do you know where there is some info on the Dunlop tires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    The Toyo comes in 195/50/15 and 225/45/15, perfect for me to put on my MR2 and drive it into a fence. People that can actually drive will probably record some great times with these on MR2s though. I also saw a "coming soon" thing in one of the photos listing 225/50/16, perfect for my Impreza stockers.

    The Kumho will -- I guarantee -- be L O U D but that's not the point obviously. It'll also tramline on roads, especially when worn in. I have foreseen it.

    The more stuff out there the better. New prices will be lower due to competition, and who knows, maybe some people will take a plunge they regret and turn around to sell lightly used sets for even less money. The market is looking great these days, eh?
    sorry to thread jack... what year mr2 do you have? i think i have some stock 93 rims for cheap, if the gf didn't give them away/throw them away... they have pirelli all-seasons on them.
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    some info on the Dunlops on tirerack- they came out last year, but missed the cutoff to run in the SCCA for 07 (I think it's April 1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by p0rnstar19 View Post
    what year mr2 do you have?
    93 with revised rear suspension, but I've got the rims, thanks anyway though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p0rnstar19 View Post
    sorry to thread jack... what year mr2 do you have? i think i have some stock 93 rims for cheap, if the gf didn't give them away/throw them away... they have pirelli all-seasons on them.
    How cheap? PM me

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    Toyo has the R1R up on their site now

    http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires...category=sport
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    I think those could very well be the rain tires to run in ST*. I don't think they are going to have the dry performance of some of the other tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx wagone View Post
    I think those could very well be the rain tires to run in ST*. I don't think they are going to have the dry performance of some of the other tires.
    I think that you're right... they look like they have too many "blocks" and not enough continuous surface area. Maybe if they are shaved?

    I wonder when Bridgestone is going to do another 100 bucks off? :-D
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