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    yeah Is saw that, between the cross bar being removed and the rear supports being removed it would be ok, BUT I'd rather just take it out if I am going to that extent.
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    STX Nationals Winner car in a box!
    http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1#post21164131

    Already have Dibs on the sways, trailing arms, and bushings!
    Thinking about the Whiteline Lateral links, but thinking the stock ones with Group N bushings might be better for now... due to $$$

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    Chris tried to sell his car as is for several months (reasonable priced too)- I had a feeling he would probably have to end up parting it out.

    He takes meticulous care of his car, his parts should be in great shape
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    Chris tried to sell his car as is for several months (reasonable priced too)- I had a feeling he would probably have to end up parting it out.

    He takes meticulous care of his car, his parts should be in great shape
    That is what it seems!

    Poly vs. Group N?

    Group N not much of an increase in NVH Some deflection
    Poly more of an increase of NVH and less deflection

    What do you think?
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    depends on the poly- someone did some tests w/ oe vs Grp N vs poly and the Grp N were actually firmer- this is going to vary by manufacturer and the specific bushing- these were lateral link bushings he was comparing IIRC, thus impossible to say w/ any certainty w/o testing them
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    Humm...
    I just bought all of Chris' bushings for the trailing arms and front control arms as well as his offset bushings, STX legal ALK!
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    I went out of town today and pm'd on the offset bushings and said they were already sold
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    Har Har Har!

    Had a good talk with Chris, AWESOME guy!

    We talked suspension for a bit and I think I may up my rear rates a tad, maybe to the 500# rage and see what that does for the car after some shake down runs with the 450# on both ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pzary3233 View Post
    JR, what are you running instead???
    Sorry I missed this. Tein MonoFlex coilovers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pzary3233 View Post
    Had a good talk with Chris, AWESOME guy!

    We talked suspension for a bit and I think I may up my rear rates a tad, maybe to the 500# rage and see what that does for the car after some shake down runs with the 450# on both ends.
    What swaybars did he say he was running with his setup?

    Watch those 500# springs, you're going to be pushing those konis pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx wagone View Post
    Sorry I missed this. Tein MonoFlex coilovers.



    What swaybars did he say he was running with his setup?

    Watch those 500# springs, you're going to be pushing those konis pretty well.
    never really heard of those Teins.Got some info?

    we talked mostly front end sways, and he went back and forth between a 24 and 27 adj.

    I'm thinking of having them revalved if i go to a 500# spring.
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    Damn it... I can't believe I missed Chris's part out. I wanted those lateral links! Ah well.. next year.

    My list:

    -Front swaybar - goal is to save weight
    --Sell Whiteline 27mm bar
    --Buy Cobb front bar

    -Spring rates - goal is to go a little stiffer so I can use a little less swaybar
    --Buy 450/500 9" Hyperco OBD springs

    -Wheels/tires - goal is to not be running on two year old RE070s
    --Buy Neovas
    --Shave em
    --Mount on ES-Tarmacs
    --Buy Direzzas
    --Buy RPF1s
    --Mount

    -Buy KCA375 to get some caster

    -Get new downpipe from TurboXS with an extra cat welded in

    -Get tuned

    That's most of it...

    Season is approaching fast all of a sudden

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    you'll save weight w/ the Cobb bar, but moving to an effective equivalent of ~ 22mm- ofcourse w/ those spring rates that might be just right

    I might give the offset bushings a go as well- missed getting Chris's already pressed in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    you'll save weight w/ the Cobb bar, but moving to an effective equivalent of ~ 22mm- ofcourse w/ those spring rates that might be just right
    I had ruled the idea out until I read this:
    http://www.iwsti.com/forums/suspensi...ay-set-up.html
    Quote Originally Posted by RaceComp Engineering View Post
    I did do the calculation....it's about 23.5mm solid in the front, and the rear is around 22.x, 23.x, and 24.x in the rear. I forget exactly and I have the exact numbers at home.
    - andrew
    So between that and going to 50 lb/in stiffer springs I figure I should be in the right range. I also have a bit of room to add camber in the front - I only ran 3.5 last year and could have gone to 4 with the Ground Control plates.

    The rates are only a 50 lb/in increase for me - I was 400/450# last year.

    I also have ride height to screw with... a nice amount of forward rake worked well for me last year.

    john

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    ButtDyno,

    I'm planning on starting out with 450 then maybe going to 500# rear.

    I had a converstation with him about Swaybars, from what he was saying, I think you're on the right track with ditching the front 27mm bar. It improves turn in, but he said the braking was bad, because of the tire lift. He would get ABS kicking in when he really didn't want it. So because of that the 24mm front bar (whiteline) was a much better route for him.

    That being said, I am going to start out with 22mm front and adj rear bars and see where I think that the car needs to go. I'll probably pick up a 24mm front bar just to see what it feels like, and then go from there.

    He also said to keep the rear 22mm adj bar as the spring rate will be enough to make up for it.

    I was VERY lucky to happen upon Chris' part out just as he posted it, so I nabbed some stuff. Hey Mike! Want the KCA375? I'll give it to you for 1 MILLLION DOLLARS!
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    hmmm $1,000,000.00



    John - interesting on the bars (ofcourse Clint contradicts w/ a 22mm estimate elsewhere in the thread ) clearly worth giving them a go- you want the least amount of sway bar as you can get away w/ (but no less )
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