New Gauges

**ButtzWRX** · 08-07-2002 10:09 AM

The first thing I want to do is put in some new gauges to monitor my future mods. Here is my list:

Autometer A-Pillar Triple Pod
Phantom Boost Gauge
Phantom A/F
Phantom EGT

I will also be getting an up pipe very soon.

My questions:

Which O2 sensor do i tap for the A/F gauge or does the gauge come with another sensor that i could tap anywhere?

SPIMotorsports has the PDE Up Pipe available with an additional bung for Autometer O2. Could I use that for the A/F?

Does the stock Up Pipe have an EGT bung? If so can I just tap into the same bung or what?

Basically: What do I need to do to get all of these gauges working properly with or without an aftermarket Up Pipe???

Thank you
Matt

**aussieinstlouis** · 08-07-2002 10:25 AM

I have the same gauges and pod as you there.
I spliced into the rear O2 sensor on the ECU.
You have to install the EGT probe that comes with the EGT gauge.
You can drill and tap it directly into the cast manifold before the up pipe (the positioning of this is the source of much debate, but I went with the advice of Turbo XS people and have had no troubles!)
They look pretty sweet when you are done. The hardest bit is getting all the wiring into the dash from the bottom of the the pillar pod! you have 12v ignition, gnd, interior illumination, AF signal wire, EGT probe wire pair and the boost tube - IT SUCKS!

Really have to be careful of the boost gauge tubing. If I had to do it again I would still do a pillar pod, but go with elec gauges like the Defi's with a single control unit.

EDIT: Required equipment to do this is a straightened coat hanger!!!

**ButtzWRX** · 08-07-2002 10:51 AM

Thanks for the info... I would switch to an electronic boost gauge, but I like the phantom look and want them all to match. Do you have any pics of yours?

Matt

**aussieinstlouis** · 08-07-2002 10:54 AM

Sure mate,

Here ya go!

Andrew

Hangover - Australian for "Where's the pub?"

**ButtzWRX** · 08-07-2002 01:04 PM

I was looking at Autometer Gauge 5765. Its the Phantom 0-1600F EGT. Does it come with a probe or do you have to buy one seperately? Thanks again. And how do you go about installing the probe? Just drill into the manifold? I am sure all of this will be much clearer once I have the car and thae gauges. Thanks for the info though.

And I like the way that looks. I can't wait.

**aussieinstlouis** · 08-07-2002 01:05 PM

Should come with it (the EGT probe) - did with mine. The cable that comes with it is a 'tuned' part of the termocouple resistor.

**ButtzWRX** · 08-07-2002 04:51 PM

Ok, sorry for all the posts, but I have looking around all day. Wouldn't having EGT and A/F be pointless? As they both can be used to warn of a lean condition. So do I really need both? I could just use the A/F and save the trouble of putting holes in the up pipe. Just an idea...

**aussieinstlouis** · 08-07-2002 05:04 PM

I could never get a straight answer to that The EGT is much closer to the cylinders, the rear O2 sensor is much further back in the exhaust (maybe some latency due to exhaust flow) - so I said 'bugger it' and got both!! besides the triple pod looked good!!

**wrxinthehouse** · 08-08-2002 07:26 AM

I have the Autometer 2 pod with a boost gauge and EGT. I went with the Ultralite series and it looks/works great. I tapped power for the EGT gauge at the fuseblock that is behind the changeholder at your left knee according to the directions here . I tapped in for the lights at the plug behind the stereo so the lights on the gauges will dim with the gauge lights. Make sure you have a good ground for the wires. For ground, I used one of the bolts that hold the hood release lever in place.

**Flyboy** · 08-08-2002 11:54 AM

Andrew, the gauges look very nice. Does the A/F meter distract you while your driving? I heard that the lights are constantly moving back and forth.

**aussieinstlouis** · 08-08-2002 12:03 PM

you have reminded me of another thing that I would change. They are not distracting, but I would swap it (position wise) with the EGT. You can see the A/F in your peripheral right at the top(colour and movement), but the EGT you need to look at a fraction longer to read. THe top gauge position is a long way from your line of sight in normal driving.

Cheers,

Andrew

**Flyboy** · 08-08-2002 12:37 PM

Thanks for the feedback mate. I'll probably be doing something similar to your gauge setup, that's why I was asking.

**aussieinstlouis** · 08-08-2002 01:29 PM

No worries
It is good getting them in there - learn along the way- lose some skin, curse a bit and you become a more rounded person!! ha ha ha!!!!

Next week will be my TurboXS Stage 2 to Stage 4 mod day!!

What do you fly Flyboy????