Radar Detector

[wrxtreme06]

Like I said, no radar detector, no tickets, 10 years.

same here. i've only been pulled over once in my 6 years of driving and i got away with a warning

I simply use cruise control anywhere from the posted speed limit up to +10mph over, no need for a radar detector anymore...

yes! this always works for me as well. i will always set my cruise control to 5mph above the speed limit [city driving] and about 10-15ish mph over on the highway. where i live cops sit in the median almost every day and radar people. i've passed them going 5 over while everyone is slamming on their brakes hoping to not get caught lol

[Fierceblues]

Like I said, no radar detector, no tickets, 10 years. Radar detectors are reactive devices and I'll tell you with confidence that you've never evaded instant on radar if it was fired at you. If it's about saving money, the fact that I don't have a radar detector has saved me more money than you having one. So does that make me the sheep?

Good for you...bravo. I live in SoCal....in the Palm Springs area. "POP" and laser is used here...alot! There are speed traps in numerous locations..from neighborhood streets to heavily traveled arterials. The CHP have radar on the freeways and the Sheriff uses radar, while the Police use radar, laser and pop. Due to the large retiree population down here and the lack of major crime the cops need something to do....so they are aggressive with speeders.

I used your method for years and it works well in most areas...not here. I got two tickets in a two month stretch once I moved here. Once in a neighborhood (43 in a 35) and another in a 6 lane arterial (58 in a 50) in which the cop was hidden behind a wall and had his gun over the top......no warnings, just a ticket. I am in my car for work half the day...so I am evading cops and their technologies constantly. I haven't been cited since getting the Bell Sti and have had it over 2 years, with numerous warnings of radar/laser/pop.

I'm happy for you and your "method"...you sound rather smug and seem to have a "cops" attititde.....you law enforcement? I have evaded laser and pop.....as a single car and in a pack. The pop alert is enough in advance that you can react quickly enough...I know I have done it. The cop "looks " at you hard...but clearly he did NOT have enought time to "lock" and "verify" the excessive speed, otherwise I would have been pulled over....who knows maybe he was eating a twinkie at the time and couldn't react fast enough to confirm. Don't know...don't care.

My Bell Sti works for me... I feel more aware with it and check my speeds when threats are around. To be clear, I am not racing around all over the place and being observant is key.....BUT the cops around here are aggressive I felt an additional set of "eyes" was necessary. Once again...I could care less what your opinion is. Bottom line use one or not...means nothing to me. The tread was started cuz someone wanted to know about detectors....I shared what I use and my experience with it, nuff said.

[jd92677]

Good for you...bravo. I live in SoCal....in the Palm Springs area. "POP" and laser is used here...alot! There are speed traps in numerous locations..from neighborhood streets to heavily traveled arterials. The CHP have radar on the freeways and the Sheriff uses radar, while the Police use radar, laser and pop. Due to the large retiree population down here and the lack of major crime the cops need something to do....so they are aggressive with speeders.

I used your method for years and it works well in most areas...not here. I got two tickets in a two month stretch once I moved here. Once in a neighborhood (43 in a 35) and another in a 6 lane arterial (58 in a 50) in which the cop was hidden behind a wall and had his gun over the top......no warnings, just a ticket. I am in my car for work half the day...so I am evading cops and their technologies constantly. I haven't been cited since getting the Bell Sti and have had it over 2 years, with numerous warnings of radar/laser/pop.

I'm happy for you and your "method"...you sound rather smug and seem to have a "cops" attititde.....you law enforcement? I have evaded laser and pop.....as a single car and in a pack. The pop alert is enough in advance that you can react quickly enough...I know I have done it. The cop "looks " at you hard...but clearly he did NOT have enought time to "lock" and "verify" the excessive speed, otherwise I would have been pulled over....who knows maybe he was eating a twinkie at the time and couldn't react fast enough to confirm. Don't know...don't care.

My Bell Sti works for me... I feel more aware with it and check my speeds when threats are around. To be clear, I am not racing around all over the place and being observant is key.....BUT the cops around here are aggressive I felt an additional set of "eyes" was necessary. Once again...I could care less what your opinion is. Bottom line use one or not...means nothing to me. The tread was started cuz someone wanted to know about detectors....I shared what I use and my experience with it, nuff said.

Sounds like you have your way, I have mine. You obviously have some care about my opinion because you feel the need to prove your point to me. The OP is interested in others opinions or he/she would not have posted the question. My point to the OP is that radar detectors give you a false sense on security, usually resulting in more tickets because they are reactive, relatively worthless and a waste of money. And there's my opinion.

[Fierceblues]

@jd92677 "Sounds like you have your way, I have mine. You obviously have some care about my opinion because you feel the need to prove your point to me."

I commented directly to you because you made several smug comments using my statements...how can you do this and not expect a response? If you didn't quote me, then give me a thinly veiled slam...then I'd probably ignore what you said...in the future I'll just ignore anything you post or respond to, cuz clearly you have an inflated opinion of yourself and views.

[justmike]

Good for you...bravo. I live in SoCal....in the Palm Springs area. "POP" and laser is used here...alot! There are speed traps in numerous locations..from neighborhood streets to heavily traveled arterials. The CHP have radar on the freeways and the Sheriff uses radar, while the Police use radar, laser and pop. Due to the large retiree population down here and the lack of major crime the cops need something to do....so they are aggressive with speeders.

I used your method for years and it works well in most areas...not here. I got two tickets in a two month stretch once I moved here. Once in a neighborhood (43 in a 35) and another in a 6 lane arterial (58 in a 50) in which the cop was hidden behind a wall and had his gun over the top......no warnings, just a ticket. I am in my car for work half the day...so I am evading cops and their technologies constantly. I haven't been cited since getting the Bell Sti and have had it over 2 years, with numerous warnings of radar/laser/pop.

I'm happy for you and your "method"...you sound rather smug and seem to have a "cops" attititde.....you law enforcement? I have evaded laser and pop.....as a single car and in a pack. The pop alert is enough in advance that you can react quickly enough...I know I have done it. The cop "looks " at you hard...but clearly he did NOT have enought time to "lock" and "verify" the excessive speed, otherwise I would have been pulled over....who knows maybe he was eating a twinkie at the time and couldn't react fast enough to confirm. Don't know...don't care.

My Bell Sti works for me... I feel more aware with it and check my speeds when threats are around. To be clear, I am not racing around all over the place and being observant is key.....BUT the cops around here are aggressive I felt an additional set of "eyes" was necessary. Once again...I could care less what your opinion is. Bottom line use one or not...means nothing to me. The tread was started cuz someone wanted to know about detectors....I shared what I use and my experience with it, nuff said.

Thanks for the input...How would you say the Bell Sti stacks up against the Valentine 1? What are the differences(if there are any)?

[teflon_jones]

Wow, I wish I could say this was my first car or some other type of excuse, but I had no idea the mirror had two pivot points. I honestly think all my prior cars on had 1 pivot to adjust the angle of the mirror itself. Well I have adjusted the mirror upward and can see much better. I still did not want to have anything hanging below(i know a detector is only about an inch) so I mounted mine above the mirror and tapped into the power supply for my mirror. I will try to post up a picture soon.

What do you mean 2 pivot points?

One thing I learned years after I started driving is that the rearview is designed to be in the "down" position in the daytime, and you should flip it "up" i.e. pull the lever towards you for nighttime. It works either way, but slightly better if you flip "up" at night. In certain cars I noticed not much if any difference, but in other cars, it made a big difference which setting you used for day and which for night.

[teflon_jones]

I'm happy for you and your "method"...you sound rather smug and seem to have a "cops" attititde.....you law enforcement? I have evaded laser and pop.....as a single car and in a pack. The pop alert is enough in advance that you can react quickly enough...I know I have done it. The cop "looks " at you hard...but clearly he did NOT have enought time to "lock" and "verify" the excessive speed, otherwise I would have been pulled over....who knows maybe he was eating a twinkie at the time and couldn't react fast enough to confirm. Don't know...don't care.

Obviously he isn't a cop or he wouldn't have to worry about tickets anyway, just flash his badge.

The post of his you quoted is about instant-on, but you refer to POP. They're two very different things. Yes, you can avoid POP. No, you can't avoid instant-on. And there's no need to "lock" or "verify" the speed. It's a basically instantaneous reading. The POP signal fires in short bursts and it sounds like your detector caught it firing at some point ahead of you. If it was pointed at you, then they would've got you. Again, a fundamental difference between instant-on and POP.

[Fierceblues]

Thanks for the input...How would you say the Bell Sti stacks up against the Valentine 1? What are the differences(if there are any)?

Never used the Valentine..can't comment. Here are a couple links about the Bell Sti. I also included links to other "stealth" technologies. Good luck.

Beltronics STi-R Review: The Ultimate Remote, in a Count of 2-5-8
Buy Radar Detectors - The Radar Detector Specialists!
Stealth Veil Performance Videos

[Fierceblues]

The post of his you quoted is about instant-on, but you refer to POP. They're two very different things. Yes, you can avoid POP. No, you can't avoid instant-on.

Well....I'm pretty sure in California they are one in the same. The issue is that in California the excessive speed has to be "confirmed"....even if there is an initial "lock"...this can be through done visually, by highway markings, radar backup or an additional shot at the car. Given that fact the driver, if equipped or sees that officer in the distance. can slow the car down.....the legislature wanted driver compliance and if that meant someone slows down, then so be it. But if the driver continues to speed after the initial "clock" and subsequent "confirm", then a citation can be issued and defended in court. The laser/radar/pop or whatever is seen as "confirmation" of the officers observations, not the other way around. So if you get "locked" at a distance...the officer could not have seen you, thus has to reacquire "lock" or wait till you come closer to confirm the violation.

This is a quote from a NorCal Police SGT on a trafiic ticket/radar forum: "Oh, the other key point to remember is that the officer is going to testify that he observed your vehicle and made a visual estimate of your speed as he was trained to do in his certification class (and passed after a successful test ... within 2 MPH or 5 MPH for EACH observation depending on the specific course). He will testify that his visual estimation was confirmed by the radar. While you MIGHT be able to argue the technical aspect of the radar, since he is basing making a visual estimation of your speed that is being confirmed by the radar, the argument against the radar is only one facet of the defense. You would somehow have to challenge his expertise, training and experience."

- Carl
__________________
A Nor Cal Cop Sergeant

[SD_GR]

Well....I'm pretty sure in California they are one in the same.

A technology will be the same as another or differ from another regardless of where these two technologies are implemented. This means they are either the same or different in California just as they would be the same or different in Uganda or anywhere else.

Are you sure your area uses laser and/or POP? I live in CA also and here they do not, meaning people are better off turning POP off etc.

[katzuu]

What do you mean 2 pivot points?

One thing I learned years after I started driving is that the rearview is designed to be in the "down" position in the daytime, and you should flip it "up" i.e. pull the lever towards you for nighttime. It works either way, but slightly better if you flip "up" at night. In certain cars I noticed not much if any difference, but in other cars, it made a big difference which setting you used for day and which for night.

The 2 pivot points I was telling jerzeystyle about is the actual mounting mechanism design for the rearview mirror. I think you might be confused with the mirror setting for the non-auto-dimming mirrors where you can "flip the switch on the bottom up" to make the headlight glare behind you not get in your eyes. The 2 pivot points refer to the arm of the rear view mirror that is attached to the front windshield.

[SD_GR]

Yes, the mirror can be pivoted with respect to the headliner so that it is physically "higher" than as delivered. This does not have to do with the angle of incidence of light from cars driving behind. It has to do with the position of the entire mirror itself in the car. I've done this to mine as I found it to be a bit of an obstruction otherwise. Now, the top end of my mirror is as high up and close to the headliner as possible. This is better, and I'm not that tall (1,85 m or so). I imagine taller people would have even more of an issue.

[jd92677]

@jd92677 "Sounds like you have your way, I have mine. You obviously have some care about my opinion because you feel the need to prove your point to me."

I commented directly to you because you made several smug comments using my statements...how can you do this and not expect a response? If you didn't quote me, then give me a thinly veiled slam...then I'd probably ignore what you said...in the future I'll just ignore anything you post or respond to, cuz clearly you have an inflated opinion of yourself and views.

Only because I'm always right No need to get offensive, it's just a discussion. This is what forums are all about. I don't take offense to what others say about my views, you shouldn't either. I really didn't mean to offend you, just providing an alternate opinion

[justmike]

just a quick question, what does DGM mean? i see everyone's signature on the bottom as 2011 WRX DGM Hatch or something to that effect...i just can't figure out what it stands for

[djclue8713]

DGM = Dark Gray Metallic

via Tapatalk