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    Racing Harness. Do you have them?

    Hey guys. I've been thinking about throwing in a 3-point racing harness into my car to "spice" up the interior. I really want to get a Sparco one. Do any of you have any type or make currently installed? I really want to do some homework about this before I make a purchase. Any info and hopefully pictures would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

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    If you want to get a harness, make sure it's DOT legal and safe to use on the street.
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    Yeah that's the biggest concern. I was just wondering if anyone could give me some advice on what to buy and what to avoid.

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    I have the Schroth Rallye 4 harness



    Installs pretty easy, and if your seatback is zippered up the middle like the '02, then you can tuck the whole thing inside the seat back and can't see that it is there at all.

    Get them from Soloracer. Brett is a good guy, supports autocross, and drives a WRX.

    A word of caution about street driving with a harness. If something horrible happens and you flip or go under something, you can't move at all with the harness on. You can't duck, lay down to get out of the way, or avoid having the lid crush your head. They are not made for street driving, even though several brands are DOT legal.

    Besides, people who drive around on the street with a racing harness on look like tools. Don't be that guy...
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    thank you very much for the info smorris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smorris View Post
    I have the Schroth Rallye 4 harness



    Installs pretty easy, and if your seatback is zippered up the middle like the '02, then you can tuck the whole thing inside the seat back and can't see that it is there at all.
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    Is yours mounted to the rear lap belt mounting points? Or the child seat mounts up top?

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    You will lose passenger capability in your rear seats in you install a harness bar.

    They are harder to get in and out of and there is absolutely no need for a 3 point harness in a street car. In addition, they are supposed to be replaced periodically. It's not a 1 time purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stil2stock View Post
    Is yours mounted to the rear lap belt mounting points? Or the child seat mounts up top?
    Rear lap belt points. The rear loop slips between the seat and seatback when not in use.

    brfatal; I don't think he was asking about a harness bar, just the harness.
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    Thank you guys for all the replies. I've decided that it's not financially a wise decision to do this. I was just trying to think of ways to make my RS more fun to drive and not constantly think about being turbo deprived. I've decided that I'm just gonna focus on audio aspects of the car. A sweet sound system is a nice thing to have until I get out of college and can get a rex.

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    Sounds like good thinking to me. Have fun with the car.
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    I have a 5 point simpson (I dont use the crotch strap tho) that i got from a friend, but i just use it for auto-x racing, it really helps keep you still in the seat while on the course.
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    I have a Sparco setup, rear passengers have no problems, and they like the fact that it is like an amusement park ride to have a bar to hold... it keeps me in the seat where the factory seats/belts would have had me stuck to the door or riding the tranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impreza2.0 View Post
    I have a Sparco setup, rear passengers have no problems, and they like the fact that it is like an amusement park ride to have a bar to hold... it keeps me in the seat where the factory seats/belts would have had me stuck to the door or riding the tranny.
    Reason I said no passengers is because if you're in an accident they have a nice shiny bar to crack their heads open on.

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    I haven't had any complaints from rear seat passengers, my friend Josh weighs 230lbs and he has hit his knee once or twice, but if you set up the bar the right way, it is not an inconvenience at all.

    It gives you a nice place to clamp a camera mount, and if you are bein' sporty,you can stick a fire extinguisher and flashlight on the support struts... Not really me, but it's been done.

    As far as the safety of 3/4pts, you don't want a 3pt. You want a 4 pt. We don't have harness bolts in our floorpans, so the only way to properly support your body is with the stock belts or a 4/5pt. I doubt anyone here needs the 5th strap, which is an anti-submarining belt (keeps you from sliding under the steering cloumn in a front end collision).

    4 point harnesses must have a bar.

    I will try to find a link to where I described this stuff, but you will be at greater risk with the 4pts than without if you don't have the bar. The angle of incidence of the belts to the seat top must be 90 degrees or greater so that the stress of sliding forward does not cam your spine or snap your collar bones.

    My bar is padded, fwwiw... if someone back there has a seatbelt failure, they'll bruise a little, but they won't smash their faces...

    The cheat where people double-D ring their belts to their bars are defeating the purpose of having bolt down hardware... that is not correct. The belts MUST be anchored to the floor with correct grade hardware. The cheat looks cool, but it is dangerous.

    What belts? The only approved belts we can get here are Schroth (makers of Sparco and Schroth belts and hardware).

    Takata makes superior belts, but they are not DOT approved. I am sure over time they will be.

    I will also get a few more pics of my bar install. It isn't in the way at all. If anything, it's helpful... my fiancee's great grandmother wouldn't be able to just get up out of there if it weren't for that bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impreza2.0 View Post
    I haven't had any complaints from rear seat passengers, my friend Josh weighs 230lbs and he has hit his knee once or twice, but if you set up the bar the right way, it is not an inconvenience at all.
    I don't think convenience is the main concern. I also don't think (and certainly don't hope, ever!) you've had a major exit with passengers. The issue is that should you run out of road with someone in the back, they may not be in any position to complain afterward depending on how they hit the bar etc.

    you can stick a fire extinguisher and flashlight on the support struts... Not really me, but it's been done.
    Depending on how awake the tech people are you may not be allowed to do this. It'll vary from venue to venue but some will (IMO correctly) object to potential missiles mounted on the bars and insist fire control be rigged low, and probably front if manual, and the flashlight kept at the paddock.

    I have friends who use belts for events in which no impact is remotely likely, and they know the issue with belt mount points but just accept it. Others won't go near the belts because they don't want a low mount point and they are interested in track use, not autox, where the belts will be used for impacts and not to simply keep the driver still. It's a tough call.

    I will also get a few more pics of my bar install. It isn't in the way at all. If anything, it's helpful... my fiancee's great grandmother wouldn't be able to just get up out of there if it weren't for that bar.
    Now this is actually fantastic! That's honestly great to hear, good for you! I have elderly relatives too, plus we're all heading that way anyway, and I also have relatives with joint problems and replacements etc. Great idea.
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