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This is a discussion on Synthetic oil data: Mobil 1 used in 2.0L stock motor within the General Maintenance, Troubleshooting & Accidents. forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; I see what you mean. AZ is pretty tough; I've only been there briefly but it was unbelievable outside! If ...

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    I see what you mean. AZ is pretty tough; I've only been there briefly but it was unbelievable outside!

    If you look at the specs of the 5W-30 on Mobil's site, it should work in your climate despite the high heat on a normal road car. But if you are boosting high and/or boosting a lot and so on, you might want to look for something more robust.
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    well GA gets fairly hot so I may check out 5W-40 when the time comes to change my oil
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    Since your car is a stg4, that might work quite well for you. I'd not extend drain intervals on a modded car without analysis to confirm it's ok though; my motor is stock.

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    Ah, so that's what the quotes meant. I thought the first one had something to do with flatulence.

    I may just stick with what I bought (5W-30) for now because: 1) the "cool" season will be starting pretty soon and 2) I'm only driving ~50 miles/week these days, and usually driving conservatively at that (damn Tucson cops ).

    Next spring I'll probably make the switch to Truck/SUV oil, hehe.

    I have 5,500 miles on the car right now; I figure that's plenty to switch over to synthetic.

    Next on the list is synthetic tranny/diff fluid (and getting rid of the vandalism of my car).
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    I prefer a 5 weight for those -10 degree mornings. it's pretty critical to get that stuff out of the pan quick as the engine warms up.

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    Great thread. I love hearing info from a nonbias member. I am going with mobile 1.
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    SD_GR, how many months = 5,000 miles for you?

    I switched to M1 5w30 about a year ago and kept changing my oil and filter at the severe conditions recommended 3.75 month interval (since that occurs before the 3750 mileage interval for my amount of driving). Then after talking with someone about how synthetic oil is supposed to be good for at least a year, he suggested that I only change and top off the filter every 3-4 months and change out the oil once a year (I drive about 8,000 miles in a year). That way I wouldn't waste money on 5 quarts of new expensive synthetic oil every quarter.
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    Originally posted by dark_rex
    I prefer a 5 weight for those -10 degree mornings. it's pretty critical to get that stuff out of the pan quick as the engine warms up.

    dR
    I've stuck with 5w30 for that reason... it seems like a good choice here, year round. Mobil 1 is a great product, I don't know why people would think it was crap.
    I've been doing the oil filters from Subaru also. Price not so bad ($9.00 with crusher ring for the drain plug)...
    Now I got to figure out what to put on the tranny... I think Im getting ready for a tranny oil change...but that maybe a topic for a whole different thread ...
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    Originally posted by WTypeRogerX
    SD_GR, how many months = 5,000 miles for you?

    I switched to M1 5w30 about a year ago and kept changing my oil and filter at the severe conditions recommended 3.75 month interval (since that occurs before the 3750 mileage interval for my amount of driving). Then after talking with someone about how synthetic oil is supposed to be good for at least a year, he suggested that I only change and top off the filter every 3-4 months and change out the oil once a year (I drive about 8,000 miles in a year). That way I wouldn't waste money on 5 quarts of new expensive synthetic oil every quarter.
    For me, 5K mi is about 3 months.

    Since you drive only 8K/yr, you are still under warranty so you can't extend changes to beyond what the manual says.

    A 5W is a great idea for you though, since you rarely start the car and would want an oil that'll pump quickly.
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    Originally posted by SD_GR
    Since you drive only 8K/yr, you are still under warranty so you can't extend changes to beyond what the manual says.

    A 5W is a great idea for you though, since you rarely start the car and would want an oil that'll pump quickly.
    I do daily drive the car - just don't have a very long commute.
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    Oh that's right, I seem to recall discussing that. If you have a short commute your enemies are water and fuel dilution, you may never warm the oil up enough to burn that off. I'd stay with conservative intervals for that reason. Go by time elapsed and maybe stay closer to the severe schedule than the normal, I'd guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR
    Oh that's right, I seem to recall discussing that. If you have a short commute your enemies are water and fuel dilution, you may never warm the oil up enough to burn that off. I'd stay with conservative intervals for that reason. Go by time elapsed and maybe stay closer to the severe schedule than the normal, I'd guess.

    Did you ever get your report from Dyson? i'm curious as what he had to say and if it's worth paying extra for his analyis.
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    I did get the report, yes. I do think it was worth it.

    Basically what happens is he spreads out the raw data in his message and injects commentary and/or analysis to explain to you what the numbers indicate. So he went down the line and interpreted the data points for me, telling me what the source of each metal molecule was from my motor and whether the number is normal or not.

    He does ask that you not share his comments with others, but also that you do share the data themselves. Depending on your stated goals for the car, he will then tell you if you're on the right track or if changes can be made etc.

    Overall the bottom line with this particular report is that the oil is working well for my stated goals, and that I can exceed the maximum 7,500 miles allowed by the warranty booklet safely (even though I won't while under warranty anyway).

    The Dyson analysis at this point is IMO both useful and "free" since it costs no more than getting the Blackstone lab data plus TBN, which I needed anyway to get an idea of how much life my oil has left. I think you will find the comments useful; for example, the things he mentioned in a single email would take a layman like me a lot of time to arrive at by looking at other people's data and interpretations, so for quick, spot-on answers it's a great deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR
    Overall the bottom line with this particular report is that the oil is working well for my stated goals, and that I can exceed the maximum 7,500 miles allowed by the warranty booklet safely (even though I won't while under warranty anyway).
    I've always thought that manufacturers would be conservative with their service intervals; after all, they don't care if you have to change your oil every 3,000 miles, but the last thing they want is a reputation for fragility. I've always followed manufacturers intervals, using M1, and my old GTI had 95,000 very hard miles on the clock when I traded it, and was still running like clockwork. I'm using M1 0w40 in my rex, still stock, and have just had my 52,500 oil change a month shy of its 2nd birthday. I chose the 0w40 becouse I theorized that it would cover the -30 to 100+ weather we get here, and if it's good enough to be OEM fill on Porsches, it should be good enough. BTW my M-F commute is very short, but every weekend I give it a 280 mile each-way thrash on the interstate. I've been half thinking of using different oils for different times of the year: going to 20w50 in the summer, and 0w30 in the winter. Any thoughts?

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    The 0W-40 ought to be almost as good as a 20-50 for summer and better in winter (just as good as a 0W-30 in winter). You may as well stay 0W-40 if it's working for you IMO.
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