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This is a discussion on Fram Sure Drain vs. Fumoto Valves within the General Maintenance, Troubleshooting & Accidents. forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; If you are really concerned about hitting a rock, several things come to mind... First off, if you're offroading or ...

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    If you are really concerned about hitting a rock, several things come to mind...

    First off, if you're offroading or participating in the Safari Rallye, forget the valve. If you're casual and mostly on tarmac, and still concerned, don't get the nipple version, get the plain Jane one and when you install, make sure the valve lever faces backwards. Plus, like I said, you can wire- or ring-clamp it for added safety.

    To be honest it's not worth the worry, if you're uncomfortable, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong either way, just talking, then maybe stick with the tried and true works drain plug.
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    One thing my brother brought up to me about this is security. Granted a regular oil plug isn't very secure, it's a lot easeir for someone that may not like you or your car to just go up and drain your oil.
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    Provided they know you have a valve installed, and/or take the time to look for one as opposed to simply keying you, stabbing your tyres, or doing some art on your sheetmetal with paint remover so that you see the handiwork later on when the paint peels... Security is an issue but how much of one, I don't know. In my day (ahem!) the world was a pure place, and we simply resorted to swearing and/or person-to-person violence - ah, the memories.
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    I was just going to order one of these. Should I get the regular or nipple version?

    what size washer would I need?

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    Originally posted by verbal
    I was just going to order one of these. Should I get the regular or nipple version?

    what size washer would I need?
    Get the nipple version. All you have to do is place a 3/8" tube to the nipple, aim the other end of the tube into any container, and drain. I have the nipple version on my car and it has worked perfect ever since I have installed it.

    There is no need for a washer. It already comes with a crush washer, and that's the only one you will ever have to by. Since you don't ever have to take the valve off.

    Buy one. Its a great investment, especially if you change your own oil.

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    Originally posted by verbal
    I was just going to order one of these. Should I get the regular or nipple version?

    what size washer would I need?
    They are on sale until 7/31/03 15% off Fumoto valve...get one now.
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    Just got my valve and plan on installing it this weekend. Do I use the washer that came with it?

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    Yeah, use the thick rubber washer that came with it.
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    Can anyone confirm that there is NO fram sure-drain that will fit the Subaru? Just curious.

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    Originally posted by 0db
    Can anyone confirm that there is NO fram sure-drain that will fit the Subaru? Just curious.
    I checked the Fram book at Auto Zone and the Fram website, no listing for Subaru.
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    I just put mine and an no leaks so far. Haven't changed the oil with it, but will in 2k miles. Since I went 4k miles before changing the oil a couple changes ago. Getting back to the 'divisible by 3' number. Plus I want to change to synthetic.

    I did get the nipple version and plan on using a hose for future changes. Now, if I take the oil cap off, and stick a hose in the drain pan, will it still drain fully if the hose is submersed in oil? Hopefully you guys understand what I'm saying.

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    Originally posted by verbal
    I did get the nipple version and plan on using a hose for future changes. Now, if I take the oil cap off, and stick a hose in the drain pan, will it still drain fully if the hose is submersed in oil? Hopefully you guys understand what I'm saying.
    Yes, as long as the oil level in the drain pan is physically lower than the oil level in the engine. (technically you need to open the oil filler cap to allow air to enter the oil pan from the top to replace the volume of the oil that's leaving the but I bet in reality this isn't much of a problem).


    Does anyone actually know what the thread pattern is on the oil drain plug?

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    Originally posted by 0db
    Yes, as long as the oil level in the drain pan is physically lower than the oil level in the engine. (technically you need to open the oil filler cap to allow air to enter the oil pan from the top to replace the volume of the oil that's leaving the but I bet in reality this isn't much of a problem).


    Does anyone actually know what the thread pattern is on the oil drain plug?
    Thats what I thought.

    I don't know the thread pattern, but if you're going to get the drain valve you need the F105.

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    I think the drain plug is M20x1.5. At least that's the thread on the F105 Fumoto valve, so I assume they must be right since it fits our car.

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