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This is a discussion on Oil Change within the General Maintenance, Troubleshooting & Accidents. forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by photog72 As for the filter, I would be wary about it. Check out the oil filter study ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by photog72
    As for the filter, I would be wary about it. Check out the oil filter study and see for yourself that the Fram is garbage. Get something a little better. I won't touch Fram
    Don't know if it's still true these days, but Fram used to be made with parafan, which is really bad for your engine.
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    i already had my first oil change before had a chance to read your post.

    do you recommand me to have another oil change within a couple of days?

    the FARM double guard oil filter + Mobile one 5W30 costed me $35.

    just wondering... walmart sells only two brands of oil filter and 90% on the shelf are FARM. if FARM is really bad, then most cars on the road are having problems.

    but i also believe wrx is no ordinary cars so it must take some special care.

    thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by photog72
    Transmission oil is fine. Leave it in until whatever the owner's manual says to change it.

    As for the filter, I would be wary about it. Check out the oil filter study and see for yourself that the Fram is garbage. Get something a little better. I won't touch Fram.

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    How much is your engine worth to you? You shouldn't need a new oil change. Just take that filter out and throw it away. Replace it with something else that was recommended in that study. Check your dipstick and fill it with the oil that escapes when you change the filter. Shouldn't cost too much more. I know people who wouldn't put fram on even their beater cars (including myself)!
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    thanks for your advise.

    I'll do that ASAP.

    but one question, when i do the oil change, as soon as i pull out the oil nut, the warm engine oil shots out like crazy. the engine is warm and the oil cap is not removed and the oil filter is also inplace.

    after i wait until the oil dripped completely, i remove the oil filter, then there are still a lot of oil come out from the oil filter place.

    so, even if i just replace the oil filter, i think most of the oil will be gone by the time the new filter gets in place.

    it's 05 wrx wagon and the oil filter is bottom mounted verticallly.

    also, i didn't remove the plaste cover while changing oil. should i remove it?

    am i doing something wrong or it's normal that the oil flows that quickly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by photog72
    How much is your engine worth to you? You shouldn't need a new oil change. Just take that filter out and throw it away. Replace it with something else that was recommended in that study. Check your dipstick and fill it with the oil that escapes when you change the filter. Shouldn't cost too much more. I know people who wouldn't put fram on even their beater cars (including myself)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRayX
    thanks for your advise.

    I'll do that ASAP.

    but one question, when i do the oil change, as soon as i pull out the oil nut, the warm engine oil shots out like crazy. the engine is warm and the oil cap is not removed and the oil filter is also inplace.

    after i wait until the oil dripped completely, i remove the oil filter, then there are still a lot of oil come out from the oil filter place.

    so, even if i just replace the oil filter, i think most of the oil will be gone by the time the new filter gets in place.

    it's 05 wrx wagon and the oil filter is bottom mounted verticallly.

    also, i didn't remove the plaste cover while changing oil. should i remove it?

    am i doing something wrong or it's normal that the oil flows that quickly?

    ray
    Just use the Fram for this cycle and change to another make next oil change- 4,000 miles with the Fram isn't going to harm anything. Though I don't use them in the WRX, I got 200,000 miles out of my previous two cars with Fram filters and never had any problems.
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    I use M1 5w-30 and a mobil oil filter...i dont drive my car much since im at school most of the year...i only have 4790miles on her and ive had her since march im probably goin to do my intervals at 4 or 5k
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRayX
    just wondering... walmart sells only two brands of oil filter and 90% on the shelf are FARM. if FARM is really bad, then most cars on the road are having problems.
    I wouldn't only shop Walmart for auto products. They only sell whatever is cheapest, and you get what you pay for. I only buy Mobil 1 there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRayX
    when i do the oil change, as soon as i pull out the oil nut, the warm engine oil shots out like crazy. the engine is warm and the oil cap is not removed and the oil filter is also inplace.
    If you just take off the filter without unbolting the oil nut, you only loose the oil in the filter. Just top off the new filter with oil and replace.

    For you experts out there, is it bad to change the oil on a cold engine? The manual says to do it with a warm engine, but I've always done it on a cold engine. The one time I changed it after a drive instead of sitting over night in the garage, the oil squirted all over the place including inside the right wheel rim and made a mess of my garage floor even though I had spread newspapers beforehand. I do run the engine until normal temp right after the initial fill to get the oil into the engine and check the dipstick again and add if necessary.
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    very curious what does SAE mean?, how many bottles do i need to put after draining and putting the filter? and where exactly do you need to jack up the car from? is it the side, or the front? i am about to do my first oil change this friday, hopefully its not raining.
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    SAE = Society of Automotive Engineers
    SAE+number is probably some standard.

    Somewhere, a FAQ said to put in 4 quarts, run the engine until warm to get the oil into the engine, then add and check the dipstick until it's at the correct level.

    You don't need to jack up the car to change the oil, but I do since I like to see what I'm doing underneath and prefer to lie on a mechanic's cart instead of the dirty floor.
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    i went to walmart and i saw mobile sae 5w-30 is thats the right one? its called clean driver or some thing, is there a specific oil i should buy from mobil?
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    Mobil 1 5W-30 is perfect for the car, in the fact that it is the weight of the oil that the car is sold with new. You can go w/ Mobil 1 without worry.

    http://www.mobil1.com/index.jsp

    10W-30 Above -4° F
    You can use Mobil 1® with SuperSyn™ 10W-30 with confidence. This viscosity is also available in Mobil Drive Clean Oil™ and Mobil Drive Clean Plus™ High Mileage formula.
    5W-30 Below 104° F
    You can use Mobil 1® with SuperSyn™ 5W-30 with confidence. This viscosity is also available in Mobil Drive Clean Oil™ and Mobil Drive Clean Plus™ – both the Newer Vehicle and High Mileage formulas.
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    Drive Clean is a good, albeit conventional, motor oil. It meets API SL so it is suitable for use in your car under warranty. Drive Clean Blend is a synthetic blend. Many of use use Mobil1, as this oil is a poly-alpha olefin-based synthetic oil.
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    i been using fram filters and mobil one oil from walmart since i bought my sti. STI has 22k miles now and i haven't had a problem. I do oil changes every 2500-3000 miles.
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    Fram filters - I will never use them again. Look here for why I will never use 'em.

    Quote Originally Posted by isr96
    i been using fram filters and mobil one oil from walmart since i bought my sti. STI has 22k miles now and i haven't had a problem. I do oil changes every 2500-3000 miles.
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