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    Exclamation I Need Your Help!!! Im I Getting Ripped Off?

    take a look at this O2 sensor. i took my car in to a shop to get the block replaced and when i go to pick it up they tell me my O2 sensor is bad, but i can drive. so i get home and pull the thing out and its covered with electrical tape and all the wires are spliced! i have pictures tell me what you think
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    Looks pretty shotty to me!
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    if thats the case, they broke it, its hella bent!

    If its that screwed up, I wonder what the rest of the mechanical stuff is like.

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    Is this the same shop that wired your gauges?
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    i wired the gauges my self. that problem is fixed but this is BS! i call subaru and they said that theres no way it should be like this. i dont know what to do? should i call the shop and be an ass about this or should i play it cool and just tell them to give back my old sensor and if the did break this one then they better replace it.

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    I'd definitely complain about it. You just paid $4K+ to get an engine put in and they do this? That's not right.

    It looks like they bent the housing and twisted the wires so far that they broke off. When I took off my O2 sensor when I did my UP and I noticed that the wires got twisted when I took it off, so I was careful to twist them the same way before putting it back on. One would think so-called professionals would be just as careful.

    Is this a perfomance-type shop or a dealership?
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    performance shop, i just called them and talk to the owner and he was upset about it and wanted me to come in first thing tommorrow with the sensor, this is the sensor off of the exhuast manifold not the up-pipe. he ask me who put the up pipe on i told him i did and what does that have to to with this sensor, then he ask me if my o2 gauge was tapped into, i said i had a apex turbo timer that subaru put in for me and they used a wire harness. hopefully i get to the bottom of this tommorrow.

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    I'd hate to see what the rest of the install looks like

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    Looks like they were too lazy to disconect the harness and just decided to cut it instead.
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    That my friends is what we call a "hack" job. If you remove the electrical tape I'll wager the wires are twisted and not Scotch-loc or crimped! As thick as the tape is wrapped, prolly not soldered either.

    02 sensors like solid one piece wires, no cuts, chafes or pinches.
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    Actually, putting in the UP does require you to remove the O2 sensor (the one in the manifold) to get to the header to UP bolts. Unless there is some trick that I am not aware of.

    So, assuming that you had your aftermarket UP installed by a shop, it is possible that the sensor could have been damaged at at that time.

    But you only noticed the malfunction AFTER you got the engine put in, which leads me to believe that the engine shop is only trying to shift blame on somebody else, which is pretty crappy, since you just paid them $ 4K+.

    Bottom line: if I were being paid to build an engine and I noticed a bad O2 sensor, I would replace it and tell the owner about it and not tell him: "it's bad, but you can run without it." Especially since the stock engine management (which you may or may not be using) uses that sensor to determine fuel delivery in closed-loop mode.
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