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    Stock o2 sensor on aftermarket downpipe - extension?

    Anyone ever run into an issue with the stock o2 sensor not reaching the post cat bung on an aftermarket downpipe? There are two spots and I know the WBO2 sensor needs to be before the cat. I have been told the stock o2 sensor goes in the bung behind the cat. I see the bung there, but the stock o2 senor does not have long enough wiring to reach. It is about a foot short. Anyone else run into this before?
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    What downpipe are you using?
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    Weird...most aftermarket DPs have the stock O2 bung in a similar location to the stock DP.

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    I've got the turboxs down pipe (catted) for the 2011 STI sedan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikie13 View Post
    Weird...most aftermarket DPs have the stock O2 bung in a similar location to the stock DP.

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    yeah the cat on my downpipe is much further back than the stock. The stock downpipe, there is pretty much about 8-9 inches between the turbo and the cat, but on the turboxs, there is a good three feet from the turbo to the cat.

    Link - http://turboxs.com/shop/08-10-subaru...-downpipe.html

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    I had trouble getting the old one out of stock exhaust one time, so I just ran down to the auto parts store and bought a drain plug and some high temp lock tight and screwed that into the hole. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    I had trouble getting the old one out of stock exhaust one time, so I just ran down to the auto parts store and bought a drain plug and some high temp lock tight and screwed that into the hole. Problem solved.
    Well the o2 sensor came off fine. The second bung is plugged already. So did you just not hook up the stock o2 sensor?

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    Looks like you need to use the bung in front of the cat for you stock sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 11blackSTi View Post
    Well the o2 sensor came off fine. The second bung is plugged already. So did you just not hook up the stock o2 sensor?


    Nope, no reason to use it. It's only function is to throw a CEL.. which will be disabled in your tune anyways.

    On my personal car I have my WBO2 sensor installed in that bung, of course I am also catless.

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    Interesting, my tune from Torque Performance has this in their instructions:

    Stage 2+ customers. Do not use any mechanical CEL Fix on the rear O2 sensor. This includes any spacer that takes the rear O2 sensor out of the exhaust stream. They are unneeded and may lead to other issues. CEL’s are not normal for these maps and if they occur they should be looked at and taken seriously to determine a cause.

    Sounds like you really need to find a extension or way to get the O2 sensor inserted for your tune to operate properly. I know a Stage 2 tune does turn off some of the O2 sensor readings but more than likely not all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame
    Nope, no reason to use it. It's only function is to throw a CEL.. which will be disabled in your tune anyways.

    On my personal car I have my WBO2 sensor installed in that bung, of course I am also catless.
    Unfortunately, Robin, that's only an option for 16-bit ECUs. The rear O2 sensor is used for fueling calculations in the 32-bit ECUs. They must have a working rear O2 sensor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 11blackSTi View Post
    yeah the cat on my downpipe is much further back than the stock. The stock downpipe, there is pretty much about 8-9 inches between the turbo and the cat, but on the turboxs, there is a good three feet from the turbo to the cat.

    Link - http://turboxs.com/shop/08-10-subaru...-downpipe.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    Unfortunately, Robin, that's only an option for 16-bit ECUs. The rear O2 sensor is used for fueling calculations in the 32-bit ECUs. They must have a working rear O2 sensor...

    Hmm.. I thought that was just for STis... so all 32-bit ECUs use the rear O2 for closed loop corrections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    Hmm.. I thought that was just for STis... so all 32-bit ECUs use the rear O2 for closed loop corrections?
    Yup.


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    Talked with Turboxs. Perfect world I would have the stock o2 sensor put in the bung behind the cat and the wbo2 sensor in the bung before the cat (which I knew had to be the case with the WBo2), although he told me that there wouldn't be a huge difference if it was vica versa. So I am going to look into seeing if I can free up some wiring coming back from the harness and if not then I will add some legth to the stock wiring. I would rather have the wbo2 before the cat and the stock o2 after. Thanks for the input everyone!

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