This is a discussion on Is transmission part of the powertrain warranty? within the General Maintenance, Troubleshooting & Accidents. forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by SeattleJeremy Only one other company in your list, Mitsubishi, sells a Compact AWD and Turbo car. While ...
If I won the lottery tomorrow I would give it to my friend and go buy a Raptor. Since that won't happen, I made a checklist and assuming I don't need the transmission rebuilt or a new clutch, I have about $1,000 worth of other stuff I have to do to it. The thing that sucks is that's just to hopefully keep it running well in stock form. I'm nowhere near able to afford mods.
You need an explanation of why a Subaru and BMW aren't in the same class?Originally Posted by teikyo30
Neither the Hyundai or the Kia offering is their entry level model, where the Subaru is. A more accurate comparison would be against the Legacy.Originally Posted by teikyo30
As for the Hyundai or Kia and entry level models, they do have vanilla versions of the Kia. You can opt for the non-turbo model. The Hyundai Genesis doesn't have a vanilla model, but there's the 2.0T or the more powerful V6, which I would say is like WRX vs WRX STi (although supposedly the new WRX is faster than the current STi).
The WRX/Impreza GT is hardly the entry level model anyway. The regular Impreza would be.
If you seriously think a turbo Kia is in the same realm of the WRX/STI your are bat**** crazy. If you have never driven a WRX or STI before this one then you need to get with someone more experienced to listen to the noises because contrary to what you seem to believe......Yes, these cars do make noises that sound ridiculous and at times worrisome but it is normal much of the time. Especially if your transmission fluid is low, which lets face it you should be checking on occasion. Your obviously not up on your maintenance and checking fluids so until you can do your part stop complaining about Subaru's part. Stop blaming things on everyone else and saying things like "I'm sure now that the car has 60,000 miles on it they'll try to say it's my fault." because if your tranny fluid is low and you didn't address it, then it is in fact your fault
It seems you started this thread just to hone your arguing skills. Have fun with your transmission. I'm done posting in this thread.
Last edited by SeattleJeremy; 10-07-2011 at 11:49 AM.
As for the turbo Kia, the Optima does 60 in 6.5 seconds. That's not too shabby, so yeah, I would put it in the same group as the WRX. As much as the Sti belongs up against the GTO anyway.
Not necessarily. They can be compared, but it doesn't mean it is an accurate one.Originally Posted by teikyo30
Motor Trend can compare whatever car they'd like, but that doesn't mean they're in the same class of vehicle; it just means they think that it would make an interesting read (after all, they are in the business of selling magazines).Originally Posted by teikyo30
They're still an Impreza...Originally Posted by teikyo30
The Genesis/Optima lines aren't the entry level models of either make, while the Impreza is of Subaru. If you want a proper comparison, the Legacy (which has N/A and F/I versions) is more accurate.
Last edited by EJ257; 10-07-2011 at 01:09 PM.
Look at how many comparisons there are between the WRX and the Mazdaspeed 3. The Mazda 3 is not the entry level car at Mazda. The Mazda 2 is. Or the comparisons of the Gti or R32 with the WRX. The Golf is not the entry-level car at VW. The VW Polo is. I've seen them compare the WRX to the Mustang and Ford's entry level car is the Fiesta.
You never changed the tranny fluid in 120,000 miles? I think that proves my point that this isn't Subaru's fault and in fact was on you. Doesn't Subaru recommend getting all the fluids changed before 60k? I feel like that is a part of the maintenance. A WRX's drivetrain isn't anything like an Eclipse so comparing that is just stupid. I assure you the transmission in your car is well designed, thats why there are 03 guys with 200k plus on stock transmissions and Subaru's last damn near forever.
Why do you not understand that just because they are tested together makes 2 cars in the same class or that 0-60 times determines what a car can do. STI's have a 0-60 time that comes close to the DB9, and is not much slower than cars like the Ferrari California (I know its a slower time but not by a whole lot) but to say they are in the same class is insane. 0-60 tests one aspect of a car.
Bottom line.... If you want your car to be more reliable and not have issues then take better care of it
I would have done all the "recommended" maintenance if the bastards at Subaru weren't ripp-off artists. They wanted $1500 for the tune-up. That's a lot of money to change some plugs and wires, and change a few fluids. They don't offer installment plans on service and I almost never have $300 to spare let alone $1500 so I decided I would have to wait and do each thing one at a time.
I looked up a DIY for the transmission fluid today and it doesn't look all that complicated up to the part where you have to take the intercooler off. I would much rather do it with someone the first time and watch everything just in case I mess up. The downside to that is the only guy I know who's a mechanic doesn't seem to know what he's doing half the time and screwed up my brakes once. So I need to ask around, maybe one of my FB friends can do it with me.
Why the dipstick is under the intercooler is beyond me. Crap like that pisses everyone off. Like with my Eclipse: you had to take the damn battery out to change the headlight on one side, and then they used retention clips that were VERY hard to get back in place. Poor design. Making people go to a dealer to do what should have been easy makes people look for more user-friendly cars next time around. I plan on my next car being an F-150 FX4, or if i get really lucky, a Raptor. The nice thing about trucks is getting to everything underneath is a lot easier and everything under the hood seems to be layed out in a more logical manner for people like myself.
Plus are cheap if you do them yourself which is very possible. When I got my car all i knew how to do was change tires and oil. I taught myself through DIY's how to do my own fluids (all of them), spark plugs, intercooler, alternator, turbo itself, exhaust, various upgrades etc etc. You don't have to pay the dealership prices if your willing to put in some elbow grease. I just can't get through to you though. "I would have done all the "recommended" maintenance if the bastards at Subaru weren't rip-off artists". Once again your blaming someone else for your inability to complete very simple DIY's. If you don't do the recommended maintenance your going to cause premature failure of parts, end of story. So either dish out the money to Subaru, do it yourself or don't whine when things go wrong.
Ok just quickly browsed through this thread. I'm gonna skip the bs here. Op stop being a cry baby. You are out of warranty so it's out of your pocket to fix it. If the squeak occurs when you're pushing in the clutch chances are it's you're throwout bearing and pressure plate. Since you're in there might as well do a new clutch disc. You're welcome for your free advice.