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    Hill start assist

    I can't stand this damn thing. I've been driving manuals for over 20 years and I don't need a machine to help me start on a hill, no matter how steep. Any way to turn it off? It also causes more clutch wear since it holds the brakes while you're trying to move so the clutch is forced to grind more. I've started to just wait the few seconds for the brakes to disengage before I do anything.

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    There's no way to disable it(atleast that I know off), but I found a work around if you're on the hill leave the car in neutral. let the brake go while swiftly shifting to first and off you go. Hill assist only works when the car is engaged in gear and you let the brakes off. You said your brakes binds when you let the clutch out? Hmm... I don't have that issue.
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    How does the hill assist even work mechanically? It can't be tuned out electronically or by removing a cable or anything? I had assumed you could take it off with a tune but haven't looked into it much.
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    Not sure if this works with 2011 STI's but might be worth a shot?

    08/09 STI hill assist override/disable - NASIOC

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    I don't understand the problem. I think the hill assist is very well done. It basically holds the clutch all the way in until things release. That's in no way more abusive than without the assist. I think it's weird and feels odd but it's not like it's a problem in the least. I actually prefer it since I live in a hilly area.
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    Hilly area is an understatement, he drives in the mountains!
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    That would make me nuts.
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    It really is kind of annoying and takes a lot of getting used to.

    The first day I had it I was over reving on a hill because I forgot I wasn't going to roll back. I am slowly getting used to it, and having no problems with it now. You just gotta get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anxiouz View Post
    I don't understand the problem. I think the hill assist is very well done. It basically holds the clutch all the way in until things release. That's in no way more abusive than without the assist. I think it's weird and feels odd but it's not like it's a problem in the least. I actually prefer it since I live in a hilly area.
    If you've driven a stick as much as I have, it serves no purpose other than being annoying and putting unnecessary wear on your clutch, I can start on any hill without putting much throttle down.

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    Hilly area is an understatement, he drives in the mountains!
    You should know, you've been to my house. Hills don't get much steeper than where I live!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heide264 View Post
    How does the hill assist even work mechanically? It can't be tuned out electronically or by removing a cable or anything? I had assumed you could take it off with a tune but haven't looked into it much.
    It's controlled by the ECU somehow. It has a level sensor somewhere that can tell when the car isn't on flat ground. If it isn't flat, it basically holds the brake pedal down for you for 3 seconds or so after you put the car in gear and push down the clutch. It works in forward or reverse the same way. There must be a way to disable it, but since it's a new feature in the 2011's (I think right?) nobody has a hack for it yet.
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    Hill assist came in 2008
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicWagon View Post
    Hill assist came in 2008
    So where's the hack?
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    Since I'm new to manuals, I actually like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teflon_jones View Post

    You should know, you've been to my house. Hills don't get much steeper than where I live!
    Yes sir, the idea sounds like it would bother me as well, especially for you driving home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A265 View Post
    Not sure if this works with 2011 STI's but might be worth a shot?

    08/09 STI hill assist override/disable - NASIOC
    I did not follow the link... but this is what was posted .
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