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    Broken Shifter Need Help

    Saturday this is what happened my shifter broke


    The dealership is saying this happened due to a bushing being over tighten.

    Here is my problem two weeks ago the dealership replaced part of the lsd due to a B clumping coming apart. 10 months ago they replaced syncro's for first gear and my clutch. They are claiming they never have touch this part of the car so I have to pay to get it fix.

    Is it possible to do all that transmission work and not touch this portion of the car?
    Last edited by Fergy82882; 07-27-2009 at 12:09 PM.

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    If the tranny came out when they did the repair... the shifter AND bushings need to come out of the tranny... plain and simple.... Tell them how they got the tranny housing off WITH the bushings attached ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzr2874 View Post
    If the tranny came out when they did the repair... the shifter AND bushings need to come out of the tranny... plain and simple.... Tell them how they got the tranny housing off WITH the bushings attached ???
    Wrong...

    You can take the entire transmission out without removing the shifter from the center console or touching that bushing:

    Subaru Service Manual, Page 5MT-27; Step 18) Remove the gear shift rod and the stay from the transmission...

    So, to the OP, the dealership had nothing to do with your aftermarket shifter breaking. Do you know what brand it is, BTW? (because it certainly doesn't look like a stock shifter)

    That picture tells me your shifter failed at a very common stress point that some cheaper designs are prone to do. I doubt it has anything to do with the bushing being too tight.

    Replacing it with a Kartboy SS is pretty simple, EXCEPT you now have a major PITA issue: Getting that damn shifter ball out of the socket...
    Last edited by Pavia; 07-27-2009 at 02:19 PM.
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    ^^ That's what I said... the shifter fork and bushings are what "exits" the housing....

    You need to read his AND my post a little closer... don't you think the dealership would have noticed if this shifter wasn't stock or SPT ?

    And to add to it... I can't see what the pic is....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzr2874 View Post
    ^^ That's what I said... the shifter fork and bushings are what "exits" the housing....

    You need to read his AND my post a little closer... don't you think the dealership would have noticed if this shifter wasn't stock or SPT ?

    And to add to it... I can't see what the pic is....
    No part of the shifter is touched to remove the transmission, except to disconnect the rod at the back of the transmission. The rod bolt is accessed from underneath the vehicle, so the shifter area in the center console is not touched by the mechanic.

    BTW, his pic is of the top of the shifter inside the vehicle (with the ashtray/shifter console removed).

    Step 18 below illustrates better:
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    Last edited by Pavia; 03-16-2010 at 11:12 AM.
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    I see the pic now.... Pavia's right... cheap knockoff shifter ...

    My apologies.

    You can get it out with a huge pair of hogs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavia View Post
    Wrong...

    You can take the entire transmission out without removing the shifter from the center console or touching that bushing:

    Subaru Service Manual, Page 5MT-27; Step 18) Remove the gear shift rod and the stay from the transmission...

    So, to the OP, the dealership had nothing to do with your aftermarket shifter breaking. Do you know what brand it is, BTW? (because it certainly doesn't look like a stock shifter)

    That picture tells me your shifter failed at a very common stress point that some cheaper designs are prone to do. I doubt it has anything to do with the bushing being too tight.

    Replacing it with a Kartboy SS is pretty simple, EXCEPT you now have a major PITA issue: Getting that damn shifter ball out of the socket...
    I don't know if the shifter is aftermarket or not I bought it like that from the Subaru dealership. Nothing really surprises me about this car anymore. I've only owned it for a little over a year. Its an 05 wrx. It had 66,000 miles when I bought it. Long story short I've tried to get them to take the car back from day 1 due to missing parts and a check engine light for a misfire on cylinder 1 that came on hours after I drove off the lot. They told me that car was all stock and went through a safety certification. So far I've discovered it has an aftermarket turbo back exhaust and a ton of problems.

    Here is a list of parts that were missing on the car when I bought it: hood prop, bushings for the hood, mass airflow sensor, parts for the air intake, middle seat belt.

    They have replaced all that plus: the turbo, piston rings, clutch, first gear syncros, the lsd, both 02 sensors, cleaned the head, speed sensor.

    Right now both my cats are rattling after this I'm just going to sell the car. Everything that has been repaired the dealership has either paid for it or my extended warranty has paid out with a $100 deductable. Except now they are not covering the shifter.

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    It's aftermarket....

    And yur frustrated.... If yur tired of it... sell it....

    Did you get everything else done/fixed that was missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzr2874 View Post
    It's aftermarket....

    And yur frustrated.... If yur tired of it... sell it....

    Did you get everything else done/fixed that was missing?
    Everything that I listed except for my cats rattling. I have to either buy a full new exhaust system or chop of the cats and replace them. I took it to 2 other dealerships and they won't touch it. One of them said I have an aftermarket waste gate, and some sort of wiring done to the ECM.

    The cause of my shifter braking is not because its aftermarket they are saying it was due to a bushing being over tighten. They are telling me that with all the work they have done to the car they have never touched it.
    I've been trying to sell it for the last couple of months with very little luck.

    These are the guys I'm dealing with Merry f888ing christmas (Parts JACKED!!!) - NASIOC

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    I don't doubt the shifter bushing bolt was over-torqued, but the dealership didn't do it. More likely it was a cheap shifter that was going to break either way.

    I feel bad for you, because it sounds like some ricer had your car, put some crappy ebay mods on it, beat the crap out of it, and then took the mods off to turn into the dealership to sort out. The dealer then passed the hurt on to you.

    That being said... there's no reason (given the rework that they 've done so far) why you can't sort your car out and put another 100k miles on it.

    First, you get a good, stock exhaust for very cheap. Same with the turbo/wastegate. Then get the airbox back on or get a good quality aftermarket intake. Then reset the ECU and a few other small things. Heck, I have a stock shifter sitting up in my attic.

    I have to ask... your shifter breaking like that pretty much disables the car. Were you stuck on the road?
    Last edited by Pavia; 07-27-2009 at 07:44 PM.
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    P.S. When you mentioned they replaced your LSD, I assumed you meant the rear diff. The WRX doesn't have an LSD in the front diff. (not that it matters)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavia View Post
    EXCEPT you now have a major PITA issue: Getting that damn shifter ball out of the socket...
    Oh man, that is gonna be a PITA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUB View Post
    Oh man, that is gonna be a PITA.
    If it was me, I'd probably be buying a whole shifter assembly to avoid dealing with that!

    UPDATE: I just did a little digging in NASIOC and it seems that white plastic socket cup can be removed. It looks like its a multi-piece design that's held together with o-rings. That would make things a whole lot easier.

    Installed a B&M short shifter in an '07 WRX... - NASIOC

    UPDATE Part Deux: May have found your broken shifter source. Agency Power SS. Look like a match?

    Attachment 84545

    They don't seem to be liked on IWSTI.com:
    Agency Power short shifter ?'s - IWSTI.com: Subaru WRX STI Forums

    Plus, the warranty is 90days, limited. That's not a confidence boost.
    Last edited by Pavia; 03-16-2010 at 11:12 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergy82882 View Post
    Everything that I listed except for my cats rattling. I have to either buy a full new exhaust system or chop of the cats and replace them. I took it to 2 other dealerships and they won't touch it. One of them said I have an aftermarket waste gate, and some sort of wiring done to the ECM.

    The cause of my shifter braking is not because its aftermarket they are saying it was due to a bushing being over tighten. They are telling me that with all the work they have done to the car they have never touched it.
    I've been trying to sell it for the last couple of months with very little luck.

    These are the guys I'm dealing with Merry f888ing christmas (Parts JACKED!!!) - NASIOC

    You are not alone, my fellow 05 jacked-up WRX owner

    To the previous owner of: JF1GD29645G516470

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavia View Post
    I have to ask... your shifter breaking like that pretty much disables the car. Were you stuck on the road?
    Yep I was stuck. It broke when I tried to shift into first at a stop sign. Luckily the road that I was on doesn’t get much traffic. I just sat there and waited for a tow truck.

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