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    Im having trouble connecting my hks type 0 turbo timer to my 03 wrx. Ive connected everything and the turbo timer turns on and beeps when i turn the car on but when i turn the ignition off the car also turns off. no countdown. In the instruction manual it says its because the safety circuit is not complete. Ive connected the gray safety wire to the pink parking brake wire like im supposed to(i think?) but it still wont work. Is there a way to bypass the safety circuit? what am I doing wrong? please help

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    Im having trouble connecting my hks type 0 turbo timer to my 03 wrx. Ive connected everything and the turbo timer turns on and beeps when i turn the car on but when i turn the ignition off the car also turns off. no countdown. In the instruction manual it says its because the safety circuit is not complete. Ive connected the gray safety wire to the pink parking brake wire like im supposed to(i think?) but it still wont work. Is there a way to bypass the safety circuit? what am I doing wrong? please help
    You don't need a turbo timer on a Subaru. Uninstall it and sell it on ebay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    Im having trouble connecting my hks type 0 turbo timer to my 03 wrx. Ive connected everything and the turbo timer turns on and beeps when i turn the car on but when i turn the ignition off the car also turns off. no countdown. In the instruction manual it says its because the safety circuit is not complete. Ive connected the gray safety wire to the pink parking brake wire like im supposed to(i think?) but it still wont work. Is there a way to bypass the safety circuit? what am I doing wrong? please help
    It definately has something to do with your gray safety wire.
    Ground that wire instead of connecting it to the pink parking break instead and see if it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavia View Post
    You don't need a turbo timer on a Subaru. Uninstall it and sell it on ebay.
    Is this true? can anyone explain why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    Is this true?
    can anyone explain why?
    Search "turbo timer" here for many threads. The Mitsu and IHI turbos are both water cooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrdys View Post
    It definately has something to do with your gray safety wire.
    Ground that wire instead of connecting it to the pink parking break instead and see if it works.
    Thanks man that did the trick. Works like a charm now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    Search "turbo timer" here for many threads. The Mitsu and IHI turbos are both water cooled.
    thanks for explaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    Is this true? can anyone explain why?
    Sure is true!

    Subaru long ago converted to a oil-lubricated, water cooled turbo. The first generation of turbos used oil-lubricated, and oil-cooled housings. This meant that you needed to run the vehicle for a period of time before you shut the engine off.. this allowed the turbo to cool down, so that when you shut the engine off the oil that was left in the turbo didn't crystalize/burn.

    If you look right next to your turbo, there is a small reservoir of coolant. There are 2 coolant lines on your turbo. One going in.. and one going out. The coolant that comes into your turbo is coming from the radiator where it has been cooled. The heat from the turbo then vaporizes this coolant. Obviously the vaporized coolant is hot, and heat rises. This coolant then goes upwards into the turbo coolant reservoir, and creates a negative vacuum. The vacuum in turn sucks in new coolant from the radiator. This is a constant cycle.

    Vaporization/evaporation is actually a cooling effect. That's why when you put water on your skin in the summer it evaporates and cools your skin. It's the same effect on the turbo. No matter how hot your turbo is.. you can turn the car off, and the turbo will cool safely from Subaru's clever engineering!

    Turbo timers are a waste of money unfortunately on factory turbo charged cars. Many cars that do not have the coolant setup that we do, such as Naturally Aspirated cars that are now turbocharged... they have to have a turbo timer. For instance 350z's, Civics, Corvettes, Vipers, etc... unless the installer creates an aftermarket coolant system, they will need a turbo timer to prevent the oil from "Cooking".
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    thanks for explaining
    Unfortunately he has a point.. it's in stickies, and several posts. A simple search would've provided the explanation that I gave. But since I have some free time, I wrote it out anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    Unfortunately he has a point.. it's in stickies, and several posts. A simple search would've provided the explanation that I gave. But since I have some free time, I wrote it out anyways.
    Ya thanks man that makes total sense. I really wish the guy that sold me the turbo timer(rally sport direct, a subaru specialist) had told me that. Damn thats the last time i buy something on a whim without researching it first

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    Ya thanks man that makes total sense. I really wish the guy that sold me the turbo timer(rally sport direct, a subaru specialist) had told me that. Damn thats the last time i buy something on a whim without researching it first
    If you would've asked them... they probably would've been able to answer it. Unfortunately sellers always assume that the buyer knows what they're buying unless there is any question about it. It's just like Blow Off Valves... people buy them from Subaru Specialty stores all the time even though they're not good on a mildly modified vehicle. But if you were to ask.. then they should advise you on your specific setup if it's a good idea or not.

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    Thanks for not flaming me man next time i'm going to search more. So i followed this guide(im not sure if i can post links is this ok?) hxxp://www.web-nine.com/projects/wrx/turbotimer/

    and at the bottom where it talks about the keyless entry and says to clip the black and green wire? Im retarded and clipped this black and green wire on accident. I started my car and everything works except for my doors still wont lock but thats because that is the wrong wire. lol what a noob


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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    Thanks for not flaming me man next time i'm going to search more. So i followed this guide(im not sure if i can post links is this ok?) hxxp://www.web-nine.com/projects/wrx/turbotimer/

    and at the bottom where it talks about the keyless entry and says to clip the black and green wire? Im retarded and clipped this black and green wire on accident. I started my car and everything works except for my doors still wont lock but thats because that is the wrong wire. lol what a noob



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    I just finished taking the timer off and fixed that wire. Im going to box it back up and see if i cant get store credit for it. If i cant then its going to ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitareric View Post
    Ya thanks man that makes total sense. I really wish the guy that sold me the turbo timer(rally sport direct, a subaru specialist) had told me that. Damn thats the last time i buy something on a whim without researching it first
    Many places sell turbo timers because people will buy them. Just like there are many places that sell massive rear wings designed to go on cars that are almost exclusively FWD.. Almost none of these sellers will typically go out of their way to convince you that what they sell offers practically no benefit or performance value what so ever and you shouldn't buy it from them.
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