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This is a discussion on >>>>The I smell raw gas from my WRX and its cold outside Thread (TSB inside)<<<< within the General Maintenance, Troubleshooting & Accidents. forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; I've got an '05. Fuel smells like it's coming from the area of the picture. Although I suppose it's possible ...

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    I've got an '05. Fuel smells like it's coming from the area of the picture. Although I suppose it's possible something got f'd up from picking my motor up to change my oil pan. I only smell it at idle too. Any ideas? I will start tearing down so I can try and see something tonight.
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    I noticed the same problem. The smell lingered for a good 15 minutes in my car... I have an 05'. Any ideas?

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    Gassy smell

    We've had the same problem. The dealer repair shop gives us a dumb look when we mention it. Interesting it seems to be a common issue.

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    my car did it to me last month and it stopped.Today it did it again and the question is Can I take it to Subaru and get it fixed if I'm the second owner?

    and what does TSB mean?

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    is it ok to drive with this gas situation or smell. Will i be fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by subaru10 View Post
    is it ok to drive with this gas situation or smell. Will i be fine?
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    Could this be causing a mis-fire? just wondering because i am running out of ideas on why i might be mis-fireing on only one cylinder and everything i check and change isn't working and i do smell gas now that it is winter and all

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    So, I DID finally manage to notice fuel leaking out of the fuel hose under the inlet pipe; as specified in the Subaru TSB. For anyone out there with this problem, do not bother taking your car to Subaru and paying the outrageous amount of money that they ask for the repair. Do what I did. You CAN do it yourselves. Now...I already a have a silicone inlet pipe. You cannot do this without one. So if you don't have one, buy one for like $250 from JSCSPEED, which is around a third the cost you would be paying Subaru for the repair. Then you also have a performance upgrade! I am apologizing beforehand for not having sufficient pictures. I was in a big hurry to get this job done and didn't think about doing a writeup until after the fact. If some pictures are needed let me know, I'll help with what I can. You also need one foot 5/16'' fuel injection hose along with 4 fuel injection hose clamps
    Repair goes as follows:

    ~Remove negative (-) battery cable.
    ~Remove intercooler. (allow BOV to remain connected to recirc. hose) *Hint: it's easier to get off the cooler after removing the driver's side cooler bracket.
    ~Remove power steering/ alternator belt.
    ~Remove alternator. After removing the alternator, take off the sensor and bunch of vacuum hoses behind it. If need be, take a picture to remember how they go back. Just make room.
    ~Remove air intake or air box.
    ~Remove and set aside power steering pump. (This is done by first removing the reservoir from its bracket. Then, by removing the three 10mm bolts securing the lines to the fuel rail protector, and then removing the three 12mm bolts securing the pump to the engine. Two of them are behind the pulley and the third one can be see from above, near the back of the pump.) Pick up pump and move left. Hang the pump with wire connected to the hood. (ignore the cooler, this is an old pic)
    ~Remove recirc. hose from inlet pipe.
    ~Remove inlet pipe.

    At this point you can see the rubber hoses that leak. The ones that Subaru charges way too much to fix. So, what you do now is take wire cutters and cut off the old hose clamps. Then slice the ends of the hoses lengthwise with a razor blade because they are probably pretty stuck. After you remove a 10mm bolt which secures the lines to the underside of the intake manifold, the rear portion of the fuel line can move back so as you can remove the old hoses. After the hoses are off, cut your new hoses to the same length or slightly longer and slide on your hose clamps open part of the clamp facing down and the bolt the right. Tighten the clamps in such a fashion so as they will not rub on the inlet pipe. MAKE THEM TIGHT.
    ~There you have it you've fixed your car! Now you just backtrack all the steps and the only money that you've spent is on fuel hose and clamps, and spent some quality time with your buddy; saving lots of money. I completed this task in a little under five hours and then drove to Charlottesville. Fuel hose and clamps were around fifteen dollars. So, it was definitely worth it.
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    Happy New Year everyone! TSB means Technical Service Bulletin. Any time there is a common reoccurring problem due to an unforseen/ unexpected manufacturer defect with a specific line, make, or model of vehicle the manufacturer will release a TSB out to all of it's dealerships and submit updates to database programs (i.e. Alldata, Mitchell). A TSB provides a detailed symptoms list and a fix to these very specific problems. So, when a technician encounters a similar problem, they can first reference the TSB's of a database to see if what they are dealing with has been see before. A recall is a manufacturer's acknowledgement of a screw up. They will also make the ORIGINAL owner aware that they are eligible for a free repair. A recall only comes into effect if X number of vehicles have whatever problem. A TSB would just explain that problem and how to fix it. If the title the title has been transfered any number of times the dealer will not notify you. Tough luck. It is at the sole discretion of the dealership weather or not to recall a TSB repair, and as far as I know that would be a crazy thought. They'd probably laugh. I don't think a great enough number of WRXs have been brought with this specific problem to warrant a recall notice. But then again maybe it has worked for some. Though this info might help some...
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    misfire

    that looks like some work. but good now i know how to fix it but, could the leak be causing a misfire?

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    Definitely possible. If not enough fuel is making it to the cylinders, because it's pouring onto your cylinder block, it can register a misfire. I'm not saying that is why. What code/ codes do you have? P0301/303? (I think passenger side is 1 & 3, driver is 2 & 4). I think... Do you have a lean code too? The lines to the passenger side fuel rails were the ones myself and many others have had issues with. Strange, sexy boxer motors. Hehe. My car was running like crap before I fixed this, and loss of power. And reeking of gasoline. I was making 200 to a tank, highway, after the leak. After I fixed it I made 150 miles to a quarter tank, highway...
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    Yeah im getting a P0301 and that is it. and my gas mileage is hurting too but its weird i have had my car for a year and all last winter this didn't happen..

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    I've had my car for two years. I first began smelling fuel mid November, 2008. It did the repair on December 6th.
    I thought I knew where it was coming from but it took me forever to actually see it leaking and be sure. I even put in tracer dye. Which, even after three UV scans, showed nothing. Stupid car... Then one day, I started my car up and the engine was real cold. The fuel smell was unusually strong. I shined a light down under my inlet hose and noticed fuel dripping profusely onto the head. Not more than two minutes later, no more leak... Than it hit me and I understood why I could never catch the leak before. Due to the fact that the cylinder walls (HEAT) are right under the fuel lines any leaking fuel that would be visible would instantly evaporate. I don't think it's as common a problem for MY '04 and newer. I believe my lines failed because of my bumped up fuel pressure. Just a theory...At any rate it still happened. And in the same spot. To BugeyeSpode02 > Last winter it was fine. Your only gonna smell it when it's leaking...<
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    Dagnabit! This just started happening to me. But hopefully I can get it fixed under the TSB! Great thread, Jeremy, thanks!



    Quote Originally Posted by teikyo30 View Post
    personally, I sorta like the gasoline smell
    LoL me too. But I don't want the fumes to become harmful because I kinda like this whole "living" thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by 02midnight View Post
    and what does TSB mean?
    TSB = Technical Service Bulletin
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    Just happened yesterday

    I have the same problem as well. This morning, after I got out of work (7pm-7am shift, I know.). I smelled raw gas coming from the engine. Sure enough, it was leaking. I'm guessing that explains why I'm getting 19MPG, on 80% highway, using Shell gas.

    I just got my 02 WRX last month from the dealer. It has 23710 miles when I brought it. Now it's 27300. I don't think I can get the dealer to fix it, since I drove with that many miles in one month.

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