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    That depends. A properly done retrofit with OEM projector components will be a significant improvement over the standard halogen headlights. Bear in mind that this isn't the case for all cars in general, just the WRX. There are some OEM halogen lights amongst other manufacturers that are far superior in terms of illumination to HID. I'm not sure about comparing the WRX OEM HID option to a true retrofit. I haven't seen any direct comparisons yet.

    As for whether or not plug and play "HID kits" work legally in halogen projectors? The answer is still no. You can't escape the fact the bulb filaments between HID and halogen are different, and a projector focused to the objective length of the halogen filament will be skewed by an HID bulb. This is internal to the projector itself, and can't be fixed simply by tipping the lights down. Could you modify halogen projectors to properly focus an HID bulb? Probably, with enough time and effort, but a retrofit will all new components is likely a more time and cost-effective solution.
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    Awesome thanks. Yeah i don't want to be that guy that blinds people as i drive around i just want to be able to see effectively. I think ill give it some time to see how the stock projectors are.

    I hope this isn't off topic for this thread but I thought that the point of fog lights was to light up under the fog and keep it from reflecting back. Why is it that i can only use my fogs at the same time as my headlights?
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    Yes, that is the point of fog lights, but their wide, low beam compromises distance. Assuming a pitch black foggy environment, your fogs alone are not sufficient to light up ahead of you. Of course, high beams are the worst thing you could do in fog.

    The fact is, if it's light enough out to not need headlights, you don't need the foglights on.
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    Oh ok thanks. I guess that is logical lol. I've never had fog lights before but I"ve seen just fogs on, on other cars, before and it confused me a bit why the WRX needed head lights to turn on the fog lights, didnt know how far the fogs went alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MY-WRX View Post
    ALL MBZ, BMW, AUDI, LEXUS and Porsche come with DRL ( Daytime Runing Lights ) which are LEDS. They also come High Intensity bulbs in there headlights. So I am really not doing anything different, my HIDS put out the perfect amount of light and it is not blinding for anyone other wise they would not allow them to be on factory cars or sell the kits aftermarket. As far as my LEDS are no brighter then any other DRL LEDS that come factory.
    You are doing things VERY differently. Those cars have systems designed by lighting engineers to work correctly.

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    Awesome thanks. Yeah i don't want to be that guy that blinds people as i drive around i just want to be able to see effectively. I think ill give it some time to see how the stock projectors are.

    I hope this isn't off topic for this thread but I thought that the point of fog lights was to light up under the fog and keep it from reflecting back. Why is it that i can only use my fogs at the same time as my headlights?
    Fog lights have basically become superfluous with current headlight technologies. They are really just a marketing gimmick for people that want them.

    Personally whenever I have an oncoming car with modified headlights that blind people I put on my brights so they can see just how great their mod is. (disclaimer: I only do this when there isn't other traffic on the road it could endanger or on roads without a divider where there's a risk of the person hitting me head on because they can't see.)

    It really pisses me off when people modify their headlights to add a bunch more light and don't care they're endangering other drivers by blinding them. OP I don't know for sure this is what you've done, but based on the picture you posted, it's exactly what it looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teflon_jones View Post
    You are doing things VERY differently. Those cars have systems designed by lighting engineers to work correctly.


    Fog lights have basically become superfluous with current headlight technologies.
    That might be true for some cars, but certainly not for my bugeye. We get very heavy fog in our area, and many roads have no streetlamps. My fog lights have a very noticeable impact on visibility in these situations. That said, would I fly off the road if I didn't have them? Probably not, but the extra assurance is worth it to me. I wish my wife's Honda had fog lights. The low-beam halogen projectors on her car are marginal at best, although the reflector high beams are excellent.
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    OP: those lights arent....


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    Where'd you get the LEDs for the fog lights?

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    Wow guys... I can attest that putting any bulb into a shielded halogen projector doesn't bind anyone. The way the light is dispersed by the lens it's a different story but doing this on my gsxr the beam shape and location stays the same. And that link is not a projector.

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    Re: HIDS AND CUSTOMS FOG LIGHTS FOR 2012 WRX

    Quote Originally Posted by IWD View Post
    Wow guys... I can attest that putting any bulb into a shielded halogen projector doesn't bind anyone. The way the light is dispersed by the lens it's a different story but doing this on my gsxr the beam shape and location stays the same. And that link is not a projector.
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    i get blinded by factory HID's all the time. Not arguing the above, just saying that factory HID's still blind oncoming traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinball View Post
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