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    Always a good idea to look at test mules for an idea of what final styling will look like. That's how I knew what the brz was going to look like years ahead of time.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinball View Post
    Always a good idea to look at test mules for an idea of what final styling will look like. That's how I knew what the brz was going to look like years ahead of time.






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    People whining about looks clearly have no grasp of what an "engineering test mule" is. Allow me to explain: Subaru engineers (and any automaker in general) test out the vehicle dynamics and powertrain in real world conditions as cheaply as possible. They take the new suspension, transmission, engine, etc, then mount the new hardware into an existing car with some quick modifications to make it all fit. This new hardware has all manner of sensors and datalogging devices so the engineers can collect real-world data that couldn't be captured in a lab or test facility.

    Test mules are supposed to be as cheap as possible, they are the barebones minimum needed to get the job done, and have little to nothing in common aesthetically with the finished product. I don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand.

    Here are some other test mules:

    The BRZ:


    Maserati Levante SUV: (just a lifted Ghibli sedan, which the future SUV will share platforms with)


    Porsche 918 Spyder:


    Chevy Volt: (on an Opel Astra platform)


    Renault Alpine: (hidden under an Exige body)


    Ferrari La Ferrari:


    Next generation Honda NSX: (obviously a hacked together S2000)


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    I worked in a factory for 4 years.
    Any prototype would be spliced together and welded from existing parts.
    Then the design is tested streamlined and put into production.
    Then the engineers would work the kinks out.
    I don't imagine the auto industry to be much. As far as research and development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TownLine500 View Post
    I worked in a factory for 4 years.
    Any prototype would be spliced together and welded from existing parts.
    Then the design is tested streamlined and put into production.
    Then the engineers would work the kinks out.

    I don't imagine the auto industry to be much. As far as research and development.
    As a mechanical engineer, I can assure you that engineers make every attempt to work the kinks out BEFORE a design is put into production. This is especially true when lives are on the line, as is the case with vehicles. Just look at what happened to GM when they didn't work the kinks out first (and then tried to hide them). Engineers are still human, and do make mistakes from time to time, but we use our collective engineering specialties, industry standards/regulations, and years of experience to try and eliminate any flaws before a product is released.

    We do hack prototypes together all the time. As is often the case, 3D modeling, software stress and CFD analysis can't fully replace building and testing a real prototype. At my company, we use 3D printing and close ties to local machine shops to turn prototypes out quickly. Often they work as intended on the first try, but sometimes they don't. My prototypes are very much like these test mules: hand assembled bits I've cobbled together myself from parts I have onhand or can 3D print. They often bear little resemblance to the finished product the customer actually uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconRaygun View Post
    It will probably look like this...




    ...I still like the old hatch more.
    I have to say I like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsibanez View Post
    I have to say I like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconRaygun View Post
    It will probably look like this...




    ...I still like the old hatch more.

    i agree, i like the top the most
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconRaygun View Post
    It will probably look like this...
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