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This is a discussion on Gasoline Type within the Everyday Impreza Talk forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by TownLine500 My point was all gas is not the same. Quality can vary from vendor to vendor ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownLine500 View Post
    My point was all gas is not the same. Quality can vary from vendor to vendor at there pumps.
    I understand. I see no evidence.

    And as far as being a child gas stations manager, I worked my way up to that position.
    My attempt at levity was not intentional mockery but seems to be based on truth: minors are children. Literally. Experiences don't change that.

    I was a grown man at 18, supporting my family.
    Everyone is grown at the age of majority. Before that we are all children. A few do admirable things and are responsible as you say.

    And Sd_GR just because you have so many posts, you clearly have no real responsibility.
    Truer words have seldom been spoken.

    And stop deconstructing peoples threads for your amusement.
    In my ample free time I'll wait for logical retorts. Either way I'm not judging you. You're right, I've been judgmental, against oil company marketing, Consumer Reports, gas stations, etc.

    I've seen no convincing studies.

    As for the site I recommend it. Add me to your ignore list and enjoy the rest. What questions go unanswered? Did you bump the thread?

    EDIT: saw and found impressive your friendly response to zax.

    EDIT 2: here there are web sites that once listed race gas locations. Or try local SCCA events for leads.
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    I agree with you. For the extra $1.00 or so per tankful you get gas from reputable suppliers. The majors also tune the gas for specific markets, adjusting for altitude, temperatures. The "Mystery Gas" can come from anywhere they have an excess that needs o be unloaded. How much is your engine worth

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    I've been tracking fuel economy in my cars since I've owned them. I track the true MPG: (current trip meter reading)/(gals of fuel bought), I mark the cost, and the station used. In all my records, I've never found a statistically significant effect on MPG by fuel brand.

    I HAVE noted poor fuel economy when an attendant ignores my request for Premium and dumps Regular in there before I realize what's happening. (I live in Oregon where it's illegal to pump your own fuel), but that is to be expected.

    Fred Meyer gas is consistently around $0.10/gal cheaper than anywhere else in my area, and it's directly in line with my commute, so I go there. As I've stated before, I have engine log files proving the engine isn't knocking or experiencing other maladies with that gas, so I'll keep going there and leave the Shell station for those that like paying more.
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    Can't pump your own gas? OK..I am a ignorant driver. I'd be breaking the law all over you state Rambo haha. Never even considered it, from a state that has full service gas stations numbering under a dozen.
    when my friends come up, i hear, "you sold the camarrrroooh.....HOLY BLEEP A WRX!"
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    Here on the Island there sure as hell is a difference between gas. I don't have any data to support my claims (because honestly, I have better things to do), and I'm not saying that any particular brand is better than another, however, on occasion I do notice a drop in MPG after I fill up at certain stations... usually at run-down nameless stations.

    There is a lot at play here, especially at stations that have a variety of grades. Typically, stations only have two tanks, one for 87, and one for 93... the rest is a blend governed by a blend valve. You are at the mercy of that blend valve if you get anything other than the lowest or highest grade available.

    If you have never noticed a difference then you may well have never actually experienced one, but this fact alone in no way proves that some stations in some areas don't partake in some degree of fraudulent behavior on either a permanent or part time basis.

    My point is, you never really know what you are putting in your tank unless you test it yourself every time you fill up. If you don't agree, that's fine, I hope you never fall victim to crappy pump gas as some of us have. Personally, I primarily fill up at the same local stations from whom I have gotten good results. Obviously this does not apply for times when I am out of town or in desperate need of gas.

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    Just to stir up the pot...we have a Brand new massive truck stop under construction. Which is sweet because of its location for me. But here's the thing. Its a Conoco / flying j stop. The tanks are in and the over head is already up. Why do the banners outside say apply at townpump.xxx??? Why are the tanks getting filled with Exxon tankers. Lol. What Are We Buying! Hahahaha
    when my friends come up, i hear, "you sold the camarrrroooh.....HOLY BLEEP A WRX!"
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    My 2 cents...I have to agree that marketing has way more to do with gas quality. I also believe that no particular brand is better than others, now the individual station probably has more to do with it. I have inspected leaking gas stations and removed many tanks during my consulting days to tell you the terrible quality of many "good looking" gas stations tanks'. Don't be fooled by the glowing red and blue neon lights to think they are better or worse. I would suggest find a gas station that serves you well and at a price you find fair and stick with it. It may be more or less money but unless you are running your car identically between tanks (I mean down to the degree F and number of seconds stuck in traffic) your fuel mileage will likely vary. Crap and water in the gas tank from a bad fill up can certainly hurt. Dry gas is your friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix1369 View Post
    now the individual station probably has more to do with it.
    This I can see happening too. I've seen several stations in my area close for days for tank work. The stations have been bigger names as well as smaller names. I'd think though that those are the stations to seek out once they reopen.
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    SD_GR is right on about tank work, best if you see the tanks out of the ground. It means they have been fully serviced or replaced altogether. You know gas will be good. I still avoid the no names because sometimes they pull out tanks and cheaply repair them. I'm not saying bigger places don't do it. But always look at tanks themselves if they look new or complete. If the station says tank repair and you don't see tanks holes in ground or fresh pavement. Other wise set your AP tuner to fuel economy mode and I RUN I RUN SO FAR AWAY! Whoops did I just show my age?
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    I found a Sunoco that sells 100.107 and 110 octane. I will get some once in a while, bet it's great for RallyCross!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TownLine500 View Post
    I found a Sunoco that sells 100.107 and 110 octane. I will get some once in a while, bet it's great for RallyCross!!
    It would only make a difference if you are tuned for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinball View Post
    It would only make a difference if you are tuned for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    It would be nice for det resistance
    Well of course, but after a certain point it gains you nothing. And if you have a car tuned for 91 or 93, especially e-tuned or pro tuned, 100+ is not better for you than that grade unless the tune is no good.


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    100+ was useful to fill just outside the track on track days then use it that day with a different map. It's not cheap though and running a map for it every day isn't practical.
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