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    So I just order a new WRX and now I'm starting to buy some extra for my new baby. One of the first things I want to buy is a radar detector (don't worry I won't be an idiot and go 100 just because I have radar detector) (and yes I have used the search bar was hoping to get some advice from people in the NJ area). I've basically narrowed it down to two different ones: (1) Escort 8500 X50 and (2) Valentine One. Price isn't of concern since the one is ~$340 and the other is ~$400, sixty bucks isn't of concern I just want the best. A little background, I am currently living in NJ where they mainly use X-Band so my first question is: Is one better for X-Band than the other? I do not plan to be in NJ for more than a couple of years so an overal opinion of the two is appreciated. Finally I know cops have been getting better at beating these detectors so if anyone has first hand experience of one of these starting to perform worse over the past few year that would be great. Any other useful info, such as one is really loud, can't hurt.

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    Small world...I just moved to Mt Laurel.

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    The 8500 x50 is only like $260, not $340.. but they're getting harder and harder to find. One of my friends was just selling his for $100 I think.. I would have got it if I didn't already have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiledMafia View Post
    Small world...I just moved to Mt Laurel.


    I just moved out of Mt. Laurel to Palmyra. I still work here though.
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    X-Band is commonly used in traffic lights and automatic doors. If that's the majority of what you'll see, then a radar detector will not really be all that beneficial to you. You'll fall into one of two categories:
    1) You ignore X because of all the false positives (and end up getting stopped)
    2) You are that idiot that hits his brakes every time their detector goes off for a false positive and causes a traffic hazard

    That said, the X50 and the V1 are in different leagues. The V1 is a top tier unit, while the X50 is a more middle tier unit. I am personally a V1 user, because I like the arrows, but a high-end Escort will be comparable in terms of performance.

    Be aware that a radar detector is just a tool to avoid unexpected roadside chats, and the likelihood of getting out of a speeding citation with a detector on your windshield is reduced drastically (compared to none at all).

    Again, if you're dealing mostly with X-Band, my advice is to skip the detector completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    That said, the X50 and the V1 are in different leagues. The V1 is a top tier unit, while the X50 is a more middle tier unit. I am personally a V1 user, because I like the arrows, but a high-end Escort will be comparable in terms of performance.

    Again, if you're dealing mostly with X-Band, my advice is to skip the detector completely.

    The x50 uses the same sensors as the high end Escort units, and detection performance is as good as the V1 (as far as I know). The difference is the x50 doesn't have any of those fancy features (like GPS) to eliminate false positives. It's a straight up signal detector, nothing else. So, like you said.. if you're dealing with X-Band, or K-Band radar it's going to be going off all the time. Here in TX highway patrol uses Ka-Band exclusively, for which there aren't really false positives. So I leave mine set in "City" mode, which turns down the sensitivity for X and K band, and just watch for Ka. It works well, but it is very bare bones.

    If you're really watching out for X-Band you may want to setp up to the more expensive units that have GPS built in that automatically eliminates most false positives.

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    I just picked up the Passport Max two weeks ago for $550. Yikes. But I do love it, still figuring it out but so far its spot on.

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    Damn who new old using old technology would cause so much difficulty... I definitely don't want my detector going off every five seconds especially if they may be real signals....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikie13 View Post


    I just moved out of Mt. Laurel to Palmyra. I still work here though.
    Gotcha, hows the WRX community down here? Also do you have any places you recommend going to either for basic maintenance or basic mods?

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    I used to live in southern NJ and have the V1. It's a great detector but yes you're going to get falsing around town since the door openers and alarms operate on K and X band. There are some muting options with the V1 in lowercase "l" mode where it will mute K and X at low levels or 30secs but still show on the detector which I use when I'm in town. I would recommend the v1 over the Escort because the v1 has a bit of an edge on long range detection

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    I live in NJ as well. I have had a V1 for about 9 years, and it has been incredible. I am also still using the original unit.

    After all of my good experiences with Valentine, I will likely be a loyal customer unless and until they produce something that isn't the best.

    I don't feel like getting into the technical aspect (because I'm just too lazy right now), but I'm pretty sure Escort has only ever out performed the V1 in POP detection. And if a police officer is effective with POP, your radar detector won't save you anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayrb37 View Post
    I live in NJ as well. I have had a V1 for about 9 years, and it has been incredible. I am also still using the original unit.

    After all of my good experiences with Valentine, I will likely be a loyal customer unless and until they produce something that isn't the best.

    I don't feel like getting into the technical aspect (because I'm just too lazy right now), but I'm pretty sure Escort has only ever out performed the V1 in POP detection. And if a police officer is effective with POP, your radar detector won't save you anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by xFalleNx View Post
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    ...and welcome, fellow south jersey-ian
    Thanks for the advice NJers.

    Another questions do you guys have any advice for shops for both mods and basic maintance?

    I would ask for tint recommendations but it seems Lee Berbs the place to go to. But this leads to me my next question...Will have tint (40% or so) on my front windows get me pulled over regularly? I haven't seen that many cops in Mt Laurel area but that doesn't mean they aren't out there....I just dont feel like getting pulled over and having to deal with the police even if I get a warning most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtraill27 View Post
    I used to live in southern NJ and have the V1. It's a great detector but yes you're going to get falsing around town since the door openers and alarms operate on K and X band. There are some muting options with the V1 in lowercase "l" mode where it will mute K and X at low levels or 30secs but still show on the detector which I use when I'm in town. I would recommend the v1 over the Escort because the v1 has a bit of an edge on long range detection
    Yea I'm sure being new to the radar detector I will have to get used to picking out the real from fake ones.

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