This is a discussion on Nabbed by the fuzz :-( within the Everyday Impreza Talk forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by SKI.WRX Even if I am not exceeding the speed limit, I enjoy being that much more aware ...
This is exactly what I did. It's a little bit of a biatch now that cops are using primarily Chargers and now even Ford Tauruses though. I have to relearn headlights.
I've said it many a thread with this discussion...while yes, radar detectors do their job when used correctly, they also give many people a false sense of security. People expect that it will save them with their little flashy lights and nice beeps, as opposed to having to be extra aware of your surroundings. I had a detector (a good one back in the day) when I was 18-20 years old...I was pulled over more for speeding during those 2 and a half years of my life than I ever have been. Once I ditched that thing, I've been pulled over twice for speeding in the next 9 years, both getting off with warnings as a mishap only going 10 over.
I'm at the point to where anyone will be in the car with me or I'll be in the car with someone driving...and I simply say "slow down. Cop right there" or I do that...and they comply with a puzzled look on their face. Then we'll pass a speed trap. And that puzzled look turns to amazement, "how did you know that??" Certainly not with my radar detector...
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Radar detectors work well on some cases. I have tbe escort 9500ix and its saved me a few tickets.
But that doesn't mean I don't pay attention when Im driving.
Iv notice that they work flawlessly when there's other cars already in front of you.
But if your on the road alone speeding by the time your alerted it might be too late.
I never said I count on it, I said it allows me to be more aware of what is coming than without. A radar detector is more like binoculars or a directional microphone used to augment the senses not replace them. I've been spotting police headlights since I was in a booster seat in the backseat of my parents minivan but I have a hard time seeing through those damned mountains haha. For example I-70 from Denver to Vail, the Escort will pick up Ka miles before the cop is spotted since it bounces around so much in the canyon.
Agreed on the explorers and chargers messing with my routine. I haven't seen a police Explorer with HID's yet, they've all had halogen projectors so far, Maybe they are on tight budgets around here lol. That used to be one of the things I looked for since I could count on the police not having HID's.
Lots of interesting comments...for what it's worth Omaha is a real "driver's city" - not too many traffic snarls, lots of long straightaways, generally very subdued cop presence. Everyone who isn't from Iowa drives on average 10 mph over the speed limit. Not to beat a dead horse, but I am generally a pretty conservative driver who has only gotten 4 speeding tickets in 38 years of driving.
On this particular day I was not being attentive to my speed and was nabbed because I happened to be in front of the pack about 2 mph faster than everyone else. I blame it in part on listening to Santana, a bona-fide driving accelerant. And the fact that the cops needed to make a quota. Lesson learned.
Here's the thing, Mikie...as you know (and probably didn't @ 18-20), it depends on how a person uses the detector. If someone buys a detector and thinks that will instantly save/shield them from getting a ticket, they're doing it wrong. I've talked about this a few times, but it's a tool in your arsenal to avoid a citation. I have a radar detector (V1). I haven't received a speeding citation in 10 years, and only had the detector for the last 3-4.Originally Posted by Mikie13
The detector can help reveal potential "hot spots" for speed traps. It helps point out situations that allow you to better recognize potential speed traps in the future. But there is more to avoiding a ticket than slapping a detector on the windshield. Use the rabbit technique (let someone going faster than you sit 1/4 mile ahead of you so they will pull out the wolves as they go by). Don't be the fastest car on the road (this is one of my principle methods); I follow a rule of thirds (for every car I pass, two pass me / for every two cars I pass, one passes me). That will put you into enough of a percentage buffer that LEO will have too many other fish to fry than you. Be aware of speeding citation levels. In NY it's 0-9, 10-19, 20-29, etc.; there's a particular section of highway near my house that is a 55MPH zone. No LEO is going to touch a car that isn't doing under 75MPH because the ticket is an additional two points and a good bit more of a fine. Keep it between 70-73 (50-66 percentile speed is 65-70), and you'll drive by LEO without them batting an eye. Lastly, is the constant watch that people discuss.
Another piece of advice on using detectors: be aware of what is used in different areas. In NY, the only band used is Ka band. In PA, they use K band (which in NY is 100% false positives); getting into a mindset of ignoring a particular band can lead to an expensive lesson if you travel out of your stomping grounds.
That said, the last thing you want to do is be stopped for speeding with a detector on the windshield. The likelihood that a LEO will let you off with a warning decreases significantly when they see it, since they figure you got it to get away with speeding.
I have had five speeding stops in the 10 years since my last speeding ticket. Four were for under 5MPH over the limit; two DUI stops (needed a reason to stop me, never even ran my license), and two harassment stops. The other was completely unregistered on radar, it was a visual estimation (easy to do at my speed vs the limit). It was on my road, and I was let go because the officer knew I could've ran and he'd have never caught me, but I got out of the windy stretch (where he was forced to turn around in a driveway instead of a 3-point turn); waited on the side of the road for over a minute before he got to me. His first words were along the lines of "I'm surprised to see you here, I'd have expected you to run". I explained I knew he had me dead to rights; never ran my license. The first four mentioned, nothing could've helped. The last one is that my road is a constant string of S-Turns, and is great for a fun hill climb to blow off steam after a bad day. Officer didn't have rolling radar on (assume he was at the end of his shift and just going back to the station, as it was around that time), he came around a corner and there was no "due diligence" to be done to avoid it (other than not speeding); hence, why I stopped. In addition to avoiding a citation by not having unexpected roadside chats with LEO, when they're inevitable, there are steps to take to reduce your risk there, as well, but that's for another discussion.
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I got the biggest ticket of my life in a Honda lol
I'm not against laser/radar detectors at all. I firmly believe they are very helpful as part of an overall layered approach to being aware of what is around you and who is clocking you. ESPECIALLY when used in conjunction with things like the WAZE app when I am a huge fan of and use constantly.
Waze is a most excellent use of crowd sourcing technology.