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    TPMS light acting up..needs further investigation...

    Tuesday: on my way to pick up my kids from Daycare and that pesky amber flat tire light comes on. Quick visual check of pressure and the front left is reading 25 psi. I get home and air up to 33. Wednesday i don't take the car out, Thursday pick up my girls and everything is fine. Friday.. That pesky light comes on again.. Something serious must be going on.
    So i start getting out my patch kit, compressor, jack, etc.. And my oldest daughter asks is she can help. How can I say no!
    i get the car up and tire off, and with her at my side we start inspecting and she finds the problem before i do.. A 1" self-tapping screw.

    Time to get the pliers!


    now for the patch!


    Air-up and check pressure!



    A job that should have taken 20 Minutes took over an hour, but it was great bonding over something i actually enjoy! And the look on her face after she pulled the relief valve on the compressor.. Priceless! lol!

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    That is awesome! Good for her! (and you!)
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    That is the most awesome thing ever! please get that temporary plug fixed at a shop though, it will eventually wear out within a few weeks of regular driving...and you see that tpms light again.

    but seriously....thats awesome.
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    That is sssoooo cool. I bet she can reach that pesky lower clamp on the intercooler to intake hose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tirerob View Post
    That is the most awesome thing ever! please get that temporary plug fixed at a shop though, it will eventually wear out within a few weeks of regular driving...and you see that tpms light again.

    but seriously....thats awesome.
    Eh, I have run those plugs for 30k+ miles before. He'll I had 4 of them in the LF tire on my old truck and ran them till the tire wore out.
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    I was under the impression these plugs ( http://www.safetyseal.com/ )were permanent? Any time I've taken a tire to a tire shop to get repaired, that's what they used, and charged me $40. So i went and bought a 30 plug kit for less than what a shop charged.
    I've had a few in my van that lasted 20k miles before the tire needed to be replaced.

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    awesome! i bet she will be a subie girl when she turns 16. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tirerob View Post
    please get that temporary plug fixed at a shop though, it will eventually wear out within a few weeks of regular driving...and you see that tpms light again.
    Wait really? I plugged my tire 1" off the sidewall last summer, ran on it all summer, then swpped to winters, now im back on those summers and the plug is still holding air. has to have been atleast 10-15k miles now.

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    That's awesome that you got some father-daughter time out of this.

    But, you need to actually get that repaired properly. A plug-patch from the inside is the only way that a tire should ever be repaired, it is actually the only way that the RMA allows as a proper repair and those spaghetti plugs actually void any tire warranty/guarantee by the manufacturer and probably shop you got them from.

    It may never cause a problem, it may result in a blow-out at high speeds causing a fatal crash. You have precious cargo on board, it's not worth the risk. It may actually be illegal to patch a tire like that soon, or at least for a shop too. Any shop that charged you 40.00 to do that, needs to be avoid, first for ripping you off and second for not caring enough about your safety and their integrity to repair that tire properly. We charge 40.00 to repair a tire as well, and that's at a dealership, and we do the following.

    1. Ensure that the puncture is in the repairable zone only, no sidewall or outer shoulder punctures can safely be repaired. The rubber compound on the sidewall and where the outer shoulders meet is different than the tread and the plug does not vulcanize properly or at all, plus there is no metal cords that are providing support to the structure of the tire there. The repairable area on any tire, as defined by the RMA is from the outermost tread to the innermost.

    2. If it has been determined that the plug is in the repairable zone, we dismount the tire, inspect the inside for damage from being run flat and then remove the foreign object. We use an awl or screwdriver to probe the puncture to see if the angle of it is more severe than 45 degrees, if not we use a patch-plug that is one piece, if it is we use a patch-plug that is two pieces.

    3. We first spray the repair area inside with a buffing agent and scrape off the tacky sealer coating around it to expose the actual rubber. Then we buff it and brush the debris off to the side with a wire brush to avoid letting oils or greases from out hand contaminate the area to be repaired and then use a compressed air vacuum to clean up the material.

    4. Then we coat the recently buffed area with rubber cement and let it dry to a tacky stage to replace any missing material and help with the vulcanization of the patch-plug. The we remove the protective adhesive tape from the patch-plug and thread it through the whole and use pliers to pull it all the way through until we see a little dimpling on the patch portion of the patch-plug, indicating that the plug portion is all the way through and no air gap remains. We then remove the adhesive tape from the top of the patch-plug and use a roller to flatten it all the way down and get any air out between the inside of the tire and the patch-plug. Then we cut the excess tail off the outside and try to get it as flush with the tire as possible. A little driving will wear it down to be perfectly flush and if done right, difficult to see because the rubber should have vulcanized in the whole to become one piece again.

    5. We then apply a liberal amount of liner sealer to the inside where we repaired it. Liner sealer is not bead sealer, liner sealer is a serious adhesive and coating. From there we remount the tire, fill it with air and then test the repaired area with a spray bottle. Assuming all is well, we then re-balance the tire.

    That satisfies the RMA and keeps any and all warranties intact for only 40.00. It takes us half an hour at most. Due to the court case in California over the Ford dealership not properly repairing a tire and being found at fault for that couples death, most dealers actually paid to have the RMA come in and train all their techs on a proper repair.

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    Keep it up with the father-daughter time! Nice work!
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    i am with spawnedx. rma and tai guidlines followed we only charge 26 for a repair with the proper combination plug/patch. however those external repairs.....they can save you the cost of replacing one(likely 4....Subaru lol) by keeping the air in a tire to avoid runflat damage before someone like me gets it apart for internal repair. i always want to see the inside to make sure the tire isnt wrecked internally even if the outside looks great. also, there was a small shop in a nearby town shutdown by lawsuit for using those external repairs(and the resulting blowout on a old piece of farm equipment, nobody hurt) but you got to spent great time with the little ones wrenching and teaching. i got nuffin but props! and hey...is that near the base? i used to live there back in 78'

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    Quote Originally Posted by tirerob View Post
    and hey...is that near the base? i used to live there back in 78'
    My avatar i assume your talking about? Its at the Grumman memorial park in Calverton. Must have been fun living there in the late 70s... That's when they were testing the f-14s if i recall correctly. I've always been fascinated by jets.. Would have been cool to watch them taking off all the time.

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    Aah OK! Yup I lived on the base(navy brat). Had two full squadrons parked next to me in Fallon, Nevada. Heh navy base in the middle of the desert. Was fun growing up in both places, now I want to roadie around and see all the places state side I either don't remember or was too young to notice anything but the planes!

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