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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikana View Post
    I just posted two sources that come from Subaru listing 7,500 miles. The first link has scans of the maintenance schedule.
    I guess it must have changed. My '09 manual says 3750.


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    1. Everything isnt bad, sparkplugs would be the hardest id say out of all those things.
    2. I use synthetic and change every 4k miles. 5w or 10w 30.
    3. I bought mine used but trans fluid change was less than $100 so wasnt too bad, had to get an axle replaced which was $80 installed, timing belt/water pump and clutch are going to be the expensive items for me when over 100k. But ya wont have to deal with those for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx650 View Post
    I guess it must have changed. My '09 manual says 3750.


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    My (possibly incorrect) understanding is that it did change in 2010 or 2011, along with a change to full synthetic oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikana View Post
    My (possibly incorrect) understanding is that it did change in 2010 or 2011, along with a change to full synthetic oil.
    Could be. I knew about the change to synthetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikana View Post
    My (possibly incorrect) understanding is that it did change in 2010 or 2011, along with a change to full synthetic oil.
    I have a 2011 and personally I could care less what the manual says I wouldn't change mine at 7500. I change mine at 3k maybe 4k max with full synthetic oil, but again that's my opinion
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    My dealership allots 7500 miles or so, according to the stickers they put on my windshield, when they change my oil. I personally don't like waiting that long.

    But, and call me old fashioned, I also check my oil periodically to see how it looks as well, in order to gauge when I want to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikana View Post
    I just posted two sources that come from Subaru listing 7,500 miles. The first link has scans of the maintenance schedule.


    Here's a scan straight from my "Warranty and Maintenance Booklet", provided by Subaru..







    And here it is stating that the first oil change should be performed at 3,000 miles.. not 7,500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikana View Post
    I just posted two sources that come from Subaru listing 7,500 miles. The first link has scans of the maintenance schedule.
    Early warranty books (I think it was late 2010, early 2011) had a note that read "When the vehicle is used under severe driving conditions, the engine oil and filter should be changed every 3,750 miles or 3 3/4 months. All turbo-charged vehicles are considered to be operated under severe driving conditions."

    Later warranty books no longer have the statement that "All turbo-charged vehicles are considered to be operated under severe driving conditions."

    I believe they now contain the recommendation to change the oil at least every 7500 miles or 7.5 months. This is the longest you should go.

    The safest bet would be to monitor what how the oil is looking and if uncertain change it more frequently. My dealership recommends 3,750, but they told me I could go longer if I wanted to. Since I use a high quality synthetic I feel ok stretching it a bit further, but try to never go above 4,000 miles between intervals. I definitely do not granny my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikana View Post
    I just posted two sources that come from Subaru listing 7,500 miles. The first link has scans of the maintenance schedule.
    I understand what you are saying here, but I've copied the text below from the first reference (maint table) you provided.

    "Engine Oil/filter*1,
    ALL TURBO models Forester XT, WRX, STI, Legacy GT
    requires Synthetic 5w-30 oil.
    1st oil change is required by 7500 miles or 7.5 months and is required at least every 7500 miles or 7.5 months after that. It is strongly recommended to do more often than that."

    I'm not trying to be antagonistic, you are trying to answer a question and use credible sources in the process. It's important to note that 7500 is the max, and SOA recomends shorter intervals for the turbo engines.

    Everyone can do what they like....I'm going to use a 3750 interval as a target change interval. If I target that interval and can't get in until I get to 4000....I'm not going to sweat it much. I have seen a lot of threads about these engines using oil between changes, and it can't hurt to change more often. Everyone has their own thoughts on the subject. I'd have to have an oil analsys done at different intervals to be sure what the best interval is for my driving habits. To be honest....I'll just change early and call it a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    Here's a scan straight from my "Warranty and Maintenance Booklet", provided by Subaru..

    And here it is stating that the first oil change should be performed at 3,000 miles.. not 7,500.
    The second image says it is for MY 2002. From the OP's references to options, warranty and maintenance schedule, I took it to mean that we were discussing a new WRX. My WRX is a 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikana View Post
    The second image says it is for MY 2002. From the OP's references to options, warranty and maintenance schedule, I took it to mean that we were discussing a new WRX. My WRX is a 2012.


    Same turbo ej boxer engine.. Subaru did extend the maximum safe oil change interval for newer models, but that doesn't change the fact that they have always recommended 3750. You could probably go 10k miles without changing your oil if you wanted to, but I wouldn't do it (and the dealership would have good grounds to deny warranty claims). A lot of it depends on what oil you use and how your UOAs come back. For instance, if you were going to use Mobil 1 5w-30 I would recommend changing the oil every 1500 miles. Subaru may say you can go 7500, but that doesn't mean the oil isn't going to sheer and break down long before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XRedJar View Post
    I understand what you are saying here, but I've copied the text below from the first reference (maint table) you provided.

    "Engine Oil/filter*1,
    ALL TURBO models Forester XT, WRX, STI, Legacy GT
    requires Synthetic 5w-30 oil.
    1st oil change is required by 7500 miles or 7.5 months and is required at least every 7500 miles or 7.5 months after that. It is strongly recommended to do more often than that."

    I'm not trying to be antagonistic, you are trying to answer a question and use credible sources in the process. It's important to note that 7500 is the max, and SOA recomends shorter intervals for the turbo engines.

    Everyone can do what they like....I'm going to use a 3750 interval as a target change interval. If I target that interval and can't get in until I get to 4000....I'm not going to sweat it much. I have seen a lot of threads about these engines using oil between changes, and it can't hurt to change more often. Everyone has their own thoughts on the subject. I'd have to have an oil analsys done at different intervals to be sure what the best interval is for my driving habits. To be honest....I'll just change early and call it a day.
    Yes, I saw the recommendation, but unfortunately it doesn't come with any additional guidance. I've personally averaged somewhere around 6000 miles between changes on my car, with the first one at 3000 or so miles.

    If 7,500 is the maximum, it seems to me that anything 7,500 or below should be safe. Especially since I drive 90% or so highway miles.

    If this is not correct I'd love to know, as I am interested in taking care of the car. That said, I've put over 20k on my car in less than a year and I'd rather not waste money on superfluous synthetic oil changes. So for those of you that change the oil sooner, why? Is there a demonstrable benefit, or is it because it seems better? Also, how can you gauge oil condition visually? It seems like something that you'd need to measure with tools, unless it is sludge or has metal flakes in it, in which case the problem is obvious. I talked to a mechanic about this once and he said it basically all looks the same after 1000 miles or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    Same turbo ej boxer engine.. Subaru did extend the maximum safe oil change interval for newer models, but that doesn't change the fact that they have always recommended 3750. You could probably go 10k miles without changing your oil if you wanted to, but I wouldn't do it (and the dealership would have good grounds to deny warranty claims). A lot of it depends on what oil you use and how your UOAs come back. For instance, if you were going to use Mobil 1 5w-30 I would recommend changing the oil every 1500 miles. Subaru may say you can go 7500, but that doesn't mean the oil isn't going to sheer and break down long before that.
    In 2010 or 2011, Subaru switched to synthetic oil. My understanding is that this is why the oil change interval was increased. I do not believe that the recommendation would be 7,500 miles for non-synthetic oil.

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    You can't really gauge oil condition visually...that's why Robin suggested an Oil analysis (Blackstone labs I believe have kits to do this to mail to them).

    I change the oil sooner because my car is older, has always used Dino oil, and has a lot of miles (124k). It runs noticeably better when the oil gets changed, so I'll continue to do that.
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