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This is a discussion on Project Hatch (aka project grocery getter part II) within the Everyday Impreza Talk forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Well after this weekends runs(12 total with my wife co-driving) the front tires blistered up about a third from the ...

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    Well after this weekends runs(12 total with my wife co-driving) the front tires blistered up about a third from the outer edge and are done. I didn't notice until I pulled them off after the event. I assume the rears would do the same within a few runs if they were ran up there. So figure 90 runs to kill them, but never corded the edges due to flipping them. Probably would get about 75-80 as I mentioned previously, unflipped.

    On a side note, I attended a Volvo driving event in which they were giving away an iPad each day for the fastest run on their "autox" course. Bunch of SCCA guys went, and I won. The eventual sale of that should get me close to the cost of a new set of Hoosiers for next year.
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    ^ congrats wow- that's a nice prize

    the Hoosiers are definitely not that long lived (at least in my hands )- I wish they were though
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    Havent been reading about all the updates on your project as I did on your oldproject hatch when I had my '05. Now when im waiting for my '11, did you keep your '06 4-pots or are they even an upgrade on the new '08+? And more curiously, on the '11?

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    they went w/ my wagon (as did almost everything- guy purchased it w/ the intention of having an out of the box sportscar )

    unfortunately the brakes on the 08-11 are nothing special- they did make the rear rotors larger- so that helped balance the brakes out a little better (slight shift in bias)

    I was hoping they would go w/ the larger LGT brakes, but they didn't- several guys have upgraded to the LGT brakes- alas I can't as I'm still running a Stock class

    you will be pleasantly surprised w/ the increase in hp/torque however- I knew it would have more than my 04, but I never would have guessed that much more- I think the torque numbers are woefully underestimated by Subaru. this bears out w/ several guys that dyno'd their stock setups before upgrading even further

    the GH is definitely a good platform
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    "summer's over"

    "summer's" over, winter's around the corner

    winter tire/wheels on, summer tires/wheels off



    full size winter spare



    makes for a nice spot to carry my tool bag and first aid kit

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    So are the front brakes the same as before? Would love to find a set of '06 4-pots and put them on, love the looks and hopefully there's an performance improvement. Had some StopTechs on my '05 and they were really, really nice, especially on the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camino cielo View Post
    Would love to find a set of '06 4-pots and put them on, love the looks and hopefully there's an performance improvement.
    Not really, due to the fact they use the same size rotor as the 2-pots. Better feel I've read, but that's about it.
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    ^ better feel (the ability to modulate your brakes near the limits) is the main benefit due to the opposed piston design

    there are some minor additional benefits- slightly lower weight, better pad selection, etc

    I think bang for buck, upgrading the front's to the larger LGT calipers/rotors can't be beat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post

    I think bang for buck, upgrading the front's to the larger LGT calipers/rotors can't be beat
    This ^^. More diameter and more heat capacity (ie the LGT sliders) in my opinion is better than slightly improved feel with the same sized rotors. On sliders, you can improve modulation feel pretty substantially from the OEM setup with better pads, fluid, and lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    "summer's" over, winter's around the corner

    winter tire/wheels on, summer tires/wheels off

    U should get some 16"ers for old time's sake
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentH View Post
    U should get some 16"ers for old time's sake
    yeah my wife would love that
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    Mike, you are on 245/40 A6s right? And you have a 5mm spacer in front and 3mm in the rear? Do you need the 3mm spacer in the rear or the tire would hit inboard?

    Tuskenraider is on 245/40 v710s (which I'm getting) and I think he said his 245/40 are fine on his +50 koseis (same as +55 with 5mm spacer).

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    I was getting some inboard rubbing in the rear, I fabbed up some ~ 1.5mm spacers that have done the trick, I'm on 3mm spacers up front- I probably should have gone 5mm up front, but I'd have to replace the lugs (not a big deal, but a wee bit of a pain )

    I'd consider going 5mm up front and as thin as possible in the rear to prevent rubbing
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    Great, that is my plan. 1.5mm is fine in the rear without new lugs since I measure 9 rotations to 80 ftlbs so we'd only be taking off 1.2 rotations. What is the ROT, 7 full rotations on a lug?

    Anyway, I might even try to get exactly 1/4" or 6.35mm spacers for the front and then take my current 5mm ones have mill them to what I need for the rear.

    When you say 'fabbed' up 1.5mm spacers, did you take an existing one and mill it down? Also, on the 5mm H&R spacer, it doesn't have the hub centric protrusion and it's thick enough that it blocks the one on the hub. Is this a concern? Or does that protrusion just help with positioning but as you torque the lugs down, the cones center the wheel adequately?
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    6.35mm would be better yet

    I think it's 8 rotations on a 12mm lug

    I just happened to have some 1.5mm aluminum stock laying around- I traced the outline of a spacer and went to work w/ a dremel and drill, kind of a laborious process w/ those tools, but it worked

    the 5mm spacer isn't really thick enough to have a hub centric protrusion like you see on some of the thicker ones, the wheel centers just fine w/ the spacer (I ran the H&R spacers on both my 02 and 04)
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