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This is a discussion on THE BLARG MOD: Intercooler tilt: increases temp drop across the intercooler within the Engine Performance forums, part of the Tutorials & DIY category; ok....here's some pics. Also included is a picture of the bracket you have to fabricate for the passager's side...I just ...

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    ok....here's some pics. Also included is a picture of the bracket you have to fabricate for the passager's side...I just happended to have some aluminum stock laying around, so that's what I used. Notice on the side shot how the IC sticks up ABOVE the hood line of the car I'm getting some sticky felt to put on the hood where it rubs.
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    Sweet Blarg.. any results yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timber
    Sweet Blarg.. any results yet?
    as I said above, the "normal" outlet temp stays in the 80's-90's...definately dropped into the double digits, which never happened with the stock one. (ambient temp is 69 today)...on a good run at decent speed temp drops into the mid 70's. Inlet temp 125-135.
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    you can tell its pretty tilted, huge though, so it helps.. thanks for the pics!

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    out of curiosity....

    did tilting the stock intercooler actually make the car feel any faster?

    did the aftermarket intercooler make the car feel any faster?

    the temp drop numbers sound great, great work! but i would be more interested in the feel of the car... do you honestly think its any faster or maybe has shorter spool up time (not really sure what improved intercoolers do besides giving more power). what do you think in terms of butt-dyno numbers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_vandal
    out of curiosity....

    did tilting the stock intercooler actually make the car feel any faster?

    did the aftermarket intercooler make the car feel any faster?

    the temp drop numbers sound great, great work! but i would be more interested in the feel of the car... do you honestly think its any faster or maybe has shorter spool up time (not really sure what improved intercoolers do besides giving more power). what do you think in terms of butt-dyno numbers?
    the cooler the air the better it burns, and you have less worry about knocks pings and detonation mainly. its a thing about safety that helps in making things more efficent .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_vandal
    out of curiosity....

    did tilting the stock intercooler actually make the car feel any faster?

    did the aftermarket intercooler make the car feel any faster?

    the temp drop numbers sound great, great work! but i would be more interested in the feel of the car... do you honestly think its any faster or maybe has shorter spool up time (not really sure what improved intercoolers do besides giving more power). what do you think in terms of butt-dyno numbers?
    well, without tuning, all ANY IC mod will do is mitigate heat better. It won't give you MORE power, it will simply allow you to lose LESS power due to heat. The car feels more responsive...not really any faster, but certainly less sluggish. In my case the car always felt great about 1-2 minutes after I started it from cold (right after warm-up), but sometimes after a drive it would feel that responsive anymore. Now it has that "just started" feeling all day (I'm talking about the new bigger TMIC now). With the tilt the effect was smaller, but it was still there.

    So...would you say that that makes the car faster? I wouldn't. I'd say it makes the car more consistent. A lot of people complain that their car doesn't feel fast anymore...or sometimes it feels faster than other times. The larger TMIC goes a VERY long way to fix that...I guess the FMIC would too, but with more lag...and from the temp readings, an FMIC just isn't necessary.

    I've also heard that a 10 degree temp drop gives you a 1% increase in performance (don't know how accurate that number is). So...in in the course of normal driving, your air charge temp goes up 30-40 degrees, spiking up to 100 degrees. that's a 3-10% loss in power as your car gets warmer that you're NOT losing with the new IC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blarg
    well, without tuning, all ANY IC mod will do is mitigate heat better. It won't give you MORE power, it will simply allow you to lose LESS power due to heat. The car feels more responsive...not really any faster, but certainly less sluggish. In my case the car always felt great about 1-2 minutes after I started it from cold (right after warm-up), but sometimes after a drive it would feel that responsive anymore. Now it has that "just started" feeling all day (I'm talking about the new bigger TMIC now). With the tilt the effect was smaller, but it was still there.

    So...would you say that that makes the car faster? I wouldn't. I'd say it makes the car more consistent. A lot of people complain that their car doesn't feel fast anymore...or sometimes it feels faster than other times. The larger TMIC goes a VERY long way to fix that...I guess the FMIC would too, but with more lag...and from the temp readings, an FMIC just isn't necessary.

    I've also heard that a 10 degree temp drop gives you a 1% increase in performance (don't know how accurate that number is). So...in in the course of normal driving, your air charge temp goes up 30-40 degrees, spiking up to 100 degrees. that's a 3-10% loss in power as your car gets warmer that you're NOT losing with the new IC.

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    i hate to kick a old dog blarg, but do you have any pics from the front of your car through the scoop? or can you even see it with the hood closed? it def looks hella tilted
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    Yes you can see it, but I have that aluminum mesh stuff on the scoop to keep the bugs out of the IC so you can't see it very well. The back of the intercooler covers the entire back of the scoop, from one end to the other. I'll see if I can get a picture through the mesh that works.

    Every time I decide to take it off, I end up stuck behind a gravel truck on the freeway...and then I decide to leave it again.
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    hey, I didn't forget about the pictures, but after many many attempts, in different light, different sun angles and whatnot, I just cannot get a decent picture of the IC through the aluminum mesh on the scoop, and since the mesh is held in with metal tabs that have to be bent to pull the mesh out, if I take it out one more time I think some of them will break off....sorry kids.
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    weaksauce!! man up and post some pics...
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    How many washers are you guys using on each side? I tried this yesterday, and found out the hard way that once you get so many washers in on a side, stacking a few more on top can be disasterous. My plan is to (hopefully) remove the washers that I have there now and stick them together using some kind of epoxy. But before I start making the stacks, I should probably know where the limit is. Thanks.

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    it seems to be different for everyone...depends on things like the thickness of your washers.

    In the washer section of your hardware store, you should also be able to find some spacers...they are like small tubes that fit over the bolt... they usually come in copper and steel. much easier to work with than washers.
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    I was going to try that today, until I got two parking tickets for a grand total of $37, $3 more than I have in my checking account... maybe some other day.

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