"The BIG BOV thread" (Where all bov question threads get merged) - Page 185

This is a discussion on "The BIG BOV thread" (Where all bov question threads get merged) within the Engine Modifications forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally posted by Schaf100 I was just assuming he wanted some quick mods to do to the car, and while ...

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    Originally posted by Schaf100
    I was just assuming he wanted some quick mods to do to the car, and while I would agree that an up-pipe is a more effective mod, it's also an extremely difficult thing to install compared to an intake, bov, mbc etc...

    If you feel comfortable installing an up-pipe or can pay to have it installed, then I would change my recco to an up-pipe over samcos....

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    exactly... an upipe is a great mod, i just dont know anyone who regularly works on subaru's and does alot of up-pipe swaps. Ive done my reading, and if someone would direct me where to go to have it done, otherwise it wont be done. I dont have the tools, the lift, the garage, etc. I wont trust anybody who hasnt worked on a wrx, specifically the uppipe.

    NO ONE in dayton works on subaru's. Maybe i could convince my subaru dealer to do it. Afterall It would be a mod that is preventing them from doing a turbocharger swap. I dont trust catalytic converters one bit, i had one break apart in my dodge.
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    Ive done my reading, and if someone would direct me where to go to have it done, otherwise it wont be done. I dont have the tools, the lift, the garage, etc. I wont trust anybody who hasnt worked on a wrx, specifically the uppipe.
    This is why other mods like turbo timers and intercooler hoses are good places to start. They build confidence in workin on the car for people who are weary. Also, with the money you save from the labor on the uppipe, you can start your tool collection. I am no expert with any type of car, but I've learned a lot more about cars(expecially subarus), from working on my car. Anyways, you can get a jack, some car stands, and all the tools needed to do an uppipe install for less then anyone(but family or friend) would charge for the install. This and the fact that noone knew what it was around me, drove me to do the job myself(I'd definately do it again). I also know a few wrx tuners that got started installing peoples uppipes in parkinglots(so you really don't need a garage).......

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    I have to agree with hippy78 again - I started out by doing the I/C hoses, then did some gauges, intake, other hoses, engine mounts, leather seats, intercooler spray system and a Stoptech Stage 2 brake kit. I had never even touched a car before and all I had was a screwdriver to my name!!
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    Hippy- Great stuff I totally agree too!

    I started w/Turbo Timer, MBC, and Hoses myself... Helped me to learn about the Subaru. As time went on, I tackled more and more difficult installs like the turbo-back, UTEC and up-pipe. Then I did Turbo/Injectors/Fuel Pump. Finally I took the plunge and installed my FMIC myself!

    Working on the WRX is not hard, it's an easy car to mod, but start small and begin to learn it before you do something big like the up-pipe.

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    if you go mbc, you better have a boost gauge first

    I would recommend either a nice downpipe or a boostgauge.
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    I think the up pipe is key.

    While I claim that I am a pretty fair mechanic, I did not install my up pipe myself (you cant even see the thing from the engine bay, let alone remove it).

    Why not have some one remove your stock up pipe for you and then you can gut it (do a search on gutting). You will get over 10 whp from this mod.

    With a little luck you could find a qualified individual who would do the labor for under $300.

    A great many of us think that a catless up pipe (be it aftermarket or stock/gutted) is one of the best single mods for the Rex.

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    I talked to JC motorsports in columbus, and one of the workers would do the install, if i bought the helix flex uppipe thru them. It's marked up to 200, but theyd be willing to do the install for no additional cost, just as long as i help out.

    does that sound pretty good? I know the helix has a flex joint that could fail. But my egt's should be low because ill be stock turbo on cobb software. 8 years it should last, or so they said over the phone. But i hear the are pretty leak-free.

    So not only would the install be reasonably priced, but It'd be a learning experience for me.

    SO , looks like ill be doing an uppipe soon
    anyone know how to avoid throwing a code for the uppipe?
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    Originally posted by MidnightFLAT4
    Ianyone know how to avoid throwing a code for the uppipe?
    Do a search for the 2.2ohm resistor fix - it's very easy.

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    Sounds like a deal to me. Resistor mod.....

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    You will love the up pipe... go for it.

    Good luck!
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    I would go with ECU upgrade that is what i started with and I'm sixteen. And now I have s/r 50 turbo and FMI and 3.5 exhaust and fuel upgrades. And all begins with ECU (UTEC, APS, COBB, Vinushu,AEM, APEX'i, Greddy)

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    Tools that are required:

    rachet, extensions, 10, 12, and 14mm sockets, and adjustable wrench. Plus Jack + stands. For what you would pay someone for the install, buy some good tools. Same money spent, then you have the tools to do future work. Tools are a GREAT investment.

    Now, a wider assortment of tools (especially getting rid of the adjustable wrench!) will help a lot, but aren't completely necessary.

    FWIW, I in no way consider myself anything close to a mechanic, and I did the up/down pipe install without a hitch. Lots of steps, but nothing hard to do.

    I did up/down/boost (w/guages) first. I'm happy.

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    Originally posted by MidnightFLAT4
    I talked to JC motorsports in columbus, and one of the workers would do the install, if i bought the helix flex uppipe thru them. It's marked up to 200, but theyd be willing to do the install for no additional cost, just as long as i help out.

    does that sound pretty good? I know the helix has a flex joint that could fail. But my egt's should be low because ill be stock turbo on cobb software. 8 years it should last, or so they said over the phone. But i hear the are pretty leak-free.

    So not only would the install be reasonably priced, but It'd be a learning experience for me.

    SO , looks like ill be doing an uppipe soon
    anyone know how to avoid throwing a code for the uppipe?

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    For 300 find a used uppipe and a downpipe. Thats the most power your going to get for $300. And dont do the resistor fix, do the sparkplug antifouler fix/ 100% mechanical and can be restored to stock in a couple of mins, somthing you cant do with a reistor.
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    Originally posted by afpdl
    For 300 find a used uppipe and a downpipe. Thats the most power your going to get for $300. And dont do the resistor fix, do the sparkplug antifouler fix/ 100% mechanical and can be restored to stock in a couple of mins, somthing you cant do with a reistor.

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